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11-14-2013, 02:39 PM
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Re: (DKB) Muslims worship God of the Bible
The first commandment tells us there is more than one god.
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11-14-2013, 02:46 PM
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Re: (DKB) Muslims worship God of the Bible
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Originally Posted by tv1a
The first commandment tells us there is more than one god.
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More what than one God?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-14-2013, 02:48 PM
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Re: (DKB) Muslims worship God of the Bible
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It's fun watching oneness people try to explain why Mary can't be the mother of God. They sound like trinnies.
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That's odd because it's Trintarians that claim Jesus IS the Mother of God. How can explaining how Mary is NOT the Mother of God make them sound like Trinitarian?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-14-2013, 02:50 PM
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Re: (DKB) Muslims worship God of the Bible
So Jesus isn't God after all.
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
That's odd because it's Trintarians that claim Jesus IS the Mother of God. How can explaining how Mary is NOT the Mother of God make them sound like Trinitarian?
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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11-14-2013, 02:54 PM
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Re: (DKB) Muslims worship God of the Bible
There are a pantheon of gods. Jehovah said to put Him first.
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
More what than one God?
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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11-14-2013, 03:05 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: (DKB) Muslims worship God of the Bible
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Originally Posted by tv1a
There are a pantheon of gods. Jehovah said to put Him first.
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Yes, there is one True God and a multitude of false gods.
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11-14-2013, 03:12 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: (DKB) Muslims worship God of the Bible
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Originally Posted by tv1a
It's fun watching oneness people try to explain why Mary can't be the mother of God. They sound like trinnies.
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'Mother of God' is a title used for Mary by trinitarians, meaning she is the one who gave birth to the one who is God. No trinitarian claims the term refers to Mary is mother of God 'from eternity' or that she produced or created his divine nature. Theotokos is more accurately translated God-bearer.
The Protestant objection to the use of the title 'Mother of God' has to do with the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic 'veneration of Mary', and has little or anything to do with christology proper. Protestants feel it is borderline idolatrous to venerate anyone except God. Catholics and Orthodox sing hymns and offer prayers to Mary. some hymns are disntictly idolatrous, in my opinion, exalting Mary as the saviour and one who gives redemption to mankind, exalting her above all the angels, etc etc.
See for example http://www.antiochian.org/sites/defa...kos-warren.pdf
But surely you knew all that, of course, which is why I do not understand what 'Mother of God' has to do with anything in this discussion.
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11-14-2013, 05:32 PM
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Re: (DKB) Muslims worship God of the Bible
You've haven't been involved in my conversations with oneness people who use trinitarian terminology to explain why Mary couldn't be God's mother.
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Originally Posted by Esaias
'Mother of God' is a title used for Mary by trinitarians, meaning she is the one who gave birth to the one who is God. No trinitarian claims the term refers to Mary is mother of God 'from eternity' or that she produced or created his divine nature. Theotokos is more accurately translated God-bearer.
The Protestant objection to the use of the title 'Mother of God' has to do with the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic 'veneration of Mary', and has little or anything to do with christology proper. Protestants feel it is borderline idolatrous to venerate anyone except God. Catholics and Orthodox sing hymns and offer prayers to Mary. some hymns are disntictly idolatrous, in my opinion, exalting Mary as the saviour and one who gives redemption to mankind, exalting her above all the angels, etc etc.
See for example http://www.antiochian.org/sites/defa...kos-warren.pdf
But surely you knew all that, of course, which is why I do not understand what 'Mother of God' has to do with anything in this discussion.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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11-14-2013, 05:47 PM
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Re: (DKB) Muslims worship God of the Bible
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
That's odd because it's Trintarians that claim Jesus IS the Mother of God. How can explaining how Mary is NOT the Mother of God make them sound like Trinitarian?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tv1a
So Jesus isn't God after all.
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You must have misread what I said. I didn't say anything about whether or not Jesus is God nor whether or not Mary is the Mother of God.
I was referring to your odd statement that Oneness DISAGREE Mary is the Mother of God YET you said "They sound like trinnies."
How can Oneness sound like Trinitarians and yet DISAGREE with Trinitarians over Mary being the Mother of God?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-14-2013, 05:47 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: (DKB) Muslims worship God of the Bible
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Originally Posted by tv1a
There are a pantheon of gods. Jehovah said to put Him first.
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Really? So you are a Polytheist that chooses to worship the biggest God of them all?
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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