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Old 06-19-2014, 03:58 PM
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Did Harry Morse teach the "social purity" doctrine ? Is that why he and Maude had no children ? What else did he believe ? What did he not believe ?

Did he never change his beliefs ? People have a habit of changing their mind about doctrine. How do I track what he believed and how long did he believe it ? Did he always follow the social purity doctrine ?

Morse has a missions report in the 1946 edition of the Pentecostal Herald. Why did he not stay in the UPC ??

He was in the PAW, then the Pentecostal Missionary Alliance. That group became the PCI. He was the foreign missions director in 1938 (PCI) Then he was in the UPC at the merger. What was he in after that ? His obit states he was a member of the International Ministers Association. What is that ?

Morse was at Azuza Street, Arroyo Seco and was a lifelong Pentecostal. Why is there no biography of him anywhere ?

What am I missing ?
Several taught social or virgin purity during those times. William Sowders of the school of prophets group taught that in order to reach perfection.
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Several taught social or virgin purity during those times. William Sowders of the school of prophets group taught that in order to reach perfection.
Well Well, now I know why I'm not perfect.
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?

Early in his church plant in Oakland, Morse became friends with a former minister of the Seventh Day Adventist Church. Could Morse's belief in the Sabbath have grown out of that relationship ?

Aimee McPherson had a large crusade in Oakland 6 years after Morse moved to Oakland. Morse used McPherson's songbook in his church. Her revelation of the fourfold came during the Oakland crusade, an aspect that Morse promoted in the future.

How do I determine the theological influences that others had on him ? It is easy to make comparisons, but how do I verify my conclusions ?

A persons theological views change over time. How do I track what a person believed ?? How do I document those changes ?

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Early in his church plant in Oakland, Morse became friends with a former minister of the Seventh Day Adventist Church. Could Morse's belief in the Sabbath have grown out of that relationship ?

Aimee McPherson had a large crusade in Oakland 6 years after Morse moved to Oakland. Morse used McPherson's songbook in his church. Her revelation of the fourfold came during the Oakland crusade, an aspect that Morse promoted in the future.

How do I determine the theological influences that others had on him ? It is easy to make comparisons, but how do I verify my conclusions ?

A persons theological views change over time. How do I track what a person believed ?? How do I document those changes ?
Thank you Scott for doing all this digging, I love Pentecostal history.
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Old 06-23-2014, 01:38 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?

There are lots of dead ends. But a few leads are promising. I might, might mind you, get my hands on a notebook from a student who trained under Harry Morse.

I biography of Harry Morse was published in 1946. I'm not sure what is in it or how brief it is.

I may end up travelling to Oakland before this is over.

Back to work in the morning. Harry Morse will have to wait !!
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Thanks so much for these postings.
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Thanks so much for these postings.
I could not agree more!
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?

Why was Morse part of the merger but not in the 1952 directory ? Trying to get into his head is not easy !!

He had speakers from a variety of denominations preach at his church. He was influenced by the Aimee McPherson crusade she had in Oakland. He used her songbook in his church. So why did he not join the Four Square Church ? Was it due to his experience at Arroyo Seco Camp meeting ? There were AOG churches in Oakland, but he did not join them, either.
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My friend whose grandfather pastored Ewart's church in LA said according to what he remembered Morse didn't much interaction with Oneness(UPC) folks in his later years with the exception of the Northwest guys?(he named the Yadons) Said the California brethren were distanced because of many of his teachings. However he did say Morse was strong on divine healing and opposed to medicine and doctors.
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Thanks for the data !!

Fuller Seminary is gong to send me what they have.
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