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Old 07-25-2014, 01:01 PM
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My problem with Calvinism is how it places Regeneration prior to Conversion. I believe that Regeneration can only come after Justification, which is attained through Conversion. Therefore, Conversion shouldn't be said to follow Regeneration, but rather Conversion follows a Prevenient Grace that draws the soul.
Calvinism (plus all other predestination to heaven or hell teaching) is the fate teaching of Hinduism baptized into Christianity. Where the Hindu and Buddhist have you entering and escaping Samsara, the Calvinist just has you predestined all the way to heaven or hell with no do overs.
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Re: Reformed Theology

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Are there any members here that subscribe to Reformed Theology?

I lean heavily toward New Calvinism (Chandler, Piper, et al).
I have gleaned much from both Calvinist & Arminian theology. I prefer to stay somewhere in the middle, balancing them with what I find written in the Bible. Oftentimes when we take our Biblical doctrines to their logical extremes we will find ourselves outside of the Word of God altogether. IMO this is a good example of man's finite capacity to understand an infinite God.

I really like New Calvinism as well. It seems to be more balanced than traditional reformed theology. I am currently reading "Desiring God: Meditations of a Christian Hedonist" by John Piper for the second time. If you have the opportunity to read it, I think you would really enjoy it.
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Old 07-25-2014, 10:18 PM
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Or Greg Boyd's blog:

I am sometimes accused of caricaturing Calvinism when I make claims like:
Calvinism teaches that God SPECIFICALLY WILLS and TAKES DELIGHT IN every evil event in history as well as each person who will suffer eternally in hell.
Calvinism teaches that God ordains every single evil thing that people do IN SUCH A WAY that God is all-holy for ordaining these evil acts while the people who do the evil acts God ordained them to do are sinful for doing them.
Calvinism teaches that God has a “sovereign will” that ordains and delights in evil and a “moral will” that is revolted by the evil his “sovereign will” ordains. This is why I have claimed that God’s “moral will” must hate God’s “sovereign will” if Calvinism is in fact true.
I believe this brief article [YOU HAVE TO GO TO BOYDS BLOG and CLICK THE LINK to read the BRIEF ARTIcle] demonstrates that I’m caricaturing nothing. And let me just say, with all sincerity, that I deeply respect John Piper’s willingness to “say it straight” and to be logically consistent. Check it out if your interested.
(By the way, if you’re interested in an alternative interpretation of the verses Piper cites to support his determinism you can find them in the Q&A section of this website).
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- See more at: http://reknew.org/2012/08/yes-calvin....YdSf3eHM.dpuf
I have enjoyed reading John Piper & Greg Boyd's debates and challenges to one another regarding there respective theology. It seems to always be cordial, and both seem to be well informed of what the other believes.

Greg Boyd is a proponent of Open Theism. I do not subscribe to it myself, but I thought he did an excellent job in teaching it!
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