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Old 08-25-2014, 10:38 PM
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Yes. It was an AMF conference.
Ok. The only AMF conference in TN I went to would have been in Dresden.
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Old 08-25-2014, 10:41 PM
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Ok. The only AMF conference in TN I went to would have been in Dresden.
This was an official AMF conference not an anniversary service.
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Ah. Top brass only, eh?
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Ah. Top brass only, eh?
No the AMF always had a summer meeting that was official it was at the meeting they conducted their official business.
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Old 08-26-2014, 07:14 AM
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I recall Rev. Alvear preached one night and I enjoyed it. Elder Groce was also at this meeting and the one other person I knew besides Elder Epley!
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"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Ok. The only AMF conference in TN I went to would have been in Dresden.
Uh Ohhhh, you've been exposed to hard preaching.
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I recall Rev. Alvear preached one night and I enjoyed it. Elder Groce was also at this meeting and the one other person I knew besides Elder Epley!
Always enjoyed Bro. Alvear's preaching. Bro. Groce was a good bible teacher as well.
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I have noticed that in a lot of ultra con preaching I will agree 100% with 90% of the first half or two thirds of the sermon. It is when they come to their idea of the application of the scripture that it all falls apart.

I listened to a Colorado ultra con preach a conference here in Nashville a few years ago. His sermon was over 1 1/2 hours long and the first hour or so was great. Then when he got to the application of what he had preached he entered the twilight zone. Nobody in his church was allowed to have internet. If a person's job required being on the internet they had to get a filter to filter everything out except the site or sites they had to connect to for work. No one under the age of 18 was allowed to own a cell phone in the church. Can you say CULT??????

He didn't say it but that controlling spirit is the same one that tells people what kind of car to buy, when and where to buy a house, who their kids can date, etc, etc. I have no doubt he is either also doing those things or was headed that way. I don't recall his name but believe he was someone who left the UPC because it was too liberal and this was before the WPF formed.
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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I have noticed that in a lot of ultra con preaching I will agree 100% with 90% of the first half or two thirds of the sermon. It is when they come to their idea of the application of the scripture that it all falls apart.

I listened to a Colorado ultra con preach a conference here in Nashville a few years ago. His sermon was over 1 1/2 hours long and the first hour or so was great. Then when he got to the application of what he had preached he entered the twilight zone. Nobody in his church was allowed to have internet. If a person's job required being on the internet they had to get a filter to filter everything out except the site or sites they had to connect to for work. No one under the age of 18 was allowed to own a cell phone in the church. Can you say CULT??????

He didn't say it but that controlling spirit is the same one that tells people what kind of car to buy, when and where to buy a house, who their kids can date, etc, etc. I have no doubt he is either also doing those things or was headed that way. I don't recall his name but believe he was someone who left the UPC because it was too liberal and this was before the WPF formed.
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