Were tithes ever required by Jesus or the Apostles?

[Rico]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Making something a guideline is where we blow it, I think. Giving in faith is not giving by guidelines. It's easier for flesh to use guidelines, but faith works differently. hence, you were blessed when you gave, but things changed in guidelines.

Brother, the Lord specifically told me to give 20%. I see nothing wrong with using 10% as a guideline because I believe it is a good strong biblical principle. I've tried giving several different ways, everything from just having a set amount to give every week, to giving a percentage, to just obeying whatever the Lord would lay on my heart during the service. It's all worked for me, but not like it did when I started giving 20% plus offerings. My income tripled in three years time. Again, I have often wondered if the deal would still be good with the Lord now.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by marthaolivia

Why not tithe and cheerfully give the same amount in offerings? If God blesses a person with a job or wealth, he/she should want to give in return what is already God's. I love being able to help support my church and pastor .

Amen!

[freeatlast]

MF Blume !! Cograts you are right on track with every thing I have studied on the subjct of tithing.

Implemented by he Catholic church to support a "clergy class"...it is NOT "Apostolic" in any form or fassion.

The Apostolic preachers taught that every man gave as he decided in his own heart and NOT of compulsuion.

I agree MFB 10% is not even cosidered a good tip today.
I have always given above that figure.

This year I quit writing in the memo on the check "tithes" I put it in as offering.

I do fear for clergy who demand the tithe as "theirs" They are the abusers mentioned in Mal 3:10 who robbed God.

[marthaolivia]

I have heard throughout my many years that one can't outgive God. That has been proven to me time and again. I am retired and certainly not wealthy but am thankful that I am able to give and God has always provided.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by marthaolivia

I have heard throughout my many years that one can't outgive God. That has been proven to me time and again. I am retired and certainly not wealthy but am thankful that I am able to give and God has always provided.

Amen. And we must always believe this!

[Steve Epley]

Look at the NT everything NOT binding that was a consistant part of Jewish life was addressed such as:
Sabbath keeping
Holy days
Dietary laws
Sacrifcial laws
Priesthood

Two common parts of worship not done away with:
Mechanical instruments
Tithing.

[H2H]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Look at the NT everything NOT binding that was a consistant part of Jewish life was addressed such as:
Sabbath keeping
Holy days
Dietary laws
Sacrifcial laws
Priesthood

Two common parts of worship not done away with:
Mechanical instruments
Tithing.

I question whether either is required in the New testament church.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by marthaolivia

I have heard throughout my many years that one can't outgive God. That has been proven to me time and again. I am retired and certainly not wealthy but am thankful that I am able to give and God has always provided.

AMEN! A giving contest with the Lord is one I don't mind losing!

[freeatlast]

The questiion is not whether we as christians should give to syupport our local assembly.

The question is: is it a NT LAW or command to do so? To give a minimum of 10% ?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

The questiion is not whether we as christians should give to syupport our local assembly.

The question is: is it a NT LAW or command to do so? To give a minimum of 10% ?

PRECISELY!