Planned Destruction of Civilisation

[Esaias]

Some General Guidelines For Women

Proverbs ch 31:
10 Who can find a virtuous woman?
For her price is far above rubies.
11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her,
So that he shall have no need of spoil.
12 She will do him good and not evil
All the days of her life.

The virtuous woman is the God ordained help, suitable to a son of God. She, being the wife of a King-For-God, is a godly Queen. With her husband she shares responsibity for ensuring a godly seed will fill, subdue, and exercise dominion over the earth. She is a valuable woman, her price is far above rubies, she's worth whatever it takes for a man to secure such a wife. Her husband can trust her, she will not do him harm. Instead, she proactively does him good, all the days of her life. Unlike Eve, who was the first feminist, and who in spite of knowing the truth and divine ordinance of God, yet allowed herself to be seduced and deceived by the serpent. Her desires getting the better of her, she brought about her own downfall, and through her her husband fell as well.

Not that she was solely to blame, for Adam shouldn't have been weak and given his strength to his wife. But consider how many women, who ought to know better, and whose husbands know the ordinance of God, nevertheless become forward enough to ask or even demand some course of action contrary to good judgment or even the Word of God? And, having been seduced by the devil they entice their husbands to yield to them, to capitulate to their demands for some thing the husband (and wife!) know, or ought to know, is not proper? And how many men surrender to the pressure, whether from an inordinate desire to please her in every thing, or from an equally controlling desire to avoid confrontation or put an end to nagging?

But the virtuous woman is not so. She is a help to her husband, not a rival.

13 She seeketh wool, and flax,
And worketh willingly with her hands.
14 She is like the merchants' ships;
She bringeth her food from afar.
15 She riseth also while it is yet night,
And giveth meat to her household,
And a portion to her maidens.
16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it:
With the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.
17 She girdeth her loins with strength,
And strengtheneth her arms.
18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good:
Her candle goeth not out by night.
19 She layeth her hands to the spindle,
And her hands hold the distaff.

The virtuous woman is industrious. She is not sitting around eating bon-bons watching soap operas on TV having dumped her children off at a government day care center so she can be idle, wandering from house to house as a busybody (1 Tim 5:13). She is, rather, busy working to advance her family's situation, to provide for her family's needs. Yes, her realm is primarily the domestic sphere, something modern feminazis can't accept. But we can see what the feminist movement's philosophy has wrought in society: the near total destruction of the family and of the nation.

(to be continued)

[Esaias]

20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor;
Yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.
21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household:
For all her household are clothed with scarlet.
22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry;
Her clothing is silk and purple.
23 Her husband is known in the gates,
When he sitteth among the elders of the land.
24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it;
And delivereth girdles unto the merchant.
25 Strength and honour are her clothing;
And she shall rejoice in time to come.

The virtuous woman, suitable to a son of God destined to exercise dominion in this earth, is a woman who is not only industrious in managing her house and her family's needs, but she is also charitable and does not fail to extend assistance to the poor. A woman suited to rule with her husband is one who, like all genuine rulers, is concerned about the welfare of others less fortunate. Now, she's not an idiot SJW type who endangers her family's well being because of an irrational and overbearing philanthropy, but she is definitely not miserly and wholly self centered, either.

In addition, her husband is known in the gates. That is, he's an important, influential person, who is involved in local affairs and influences or at least gives counsel to decision makers, if he's not a decision maker himself. Notice, SHE doesn't feel the need to harp at the city gates, her husband is there. She and her husband function as one political unit, united in purpose and effect. She doesn't cancel her husband's vote, she reinforces it, and supports his efforts. Together, they make dominion possible.

26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom;
And in her tongue is the law of kindness.
27 She looketh well to the ways of her household,
And eateth not the bread of idleness.
28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed;
Her husband also, and he praiseth her.
29 Many daughters have done virtuously,
But thou excellest them all.

She speaks wisdom. Since the fear of God is the foundation and source of wisdom, the wisdom she speaks is God's, not society's. She is educated in God's Word and God's Ways. She is no typical college SJW "woman's studies graduate". She is a gofly woman who upholds and TEACHES GOD'S WORD, especially to her children, but to also to any she interacts with. Whatever she says is from the truth of God, not the lies of Cosmopolitan magazine or feminism or any other ism.

Her children esteem her highly, as does her husband, and rightly so. She leaves a legacy, a godly legacy worth praising.

What a contrast to many of the XX chromosome carriers shuffling about our streets these days, passing themselves off as "women"! And why so many? Because, first, men tolerate them. Fathers, husbands, brothers, friends, they tolerate the UNvirtuous "woman", so there is no societal check on unvirtuous bad behavior. Second, they are subsidized by tax dollars via welfare and divorce precedent. A woman in America has no NEED to be virtuous, she can be a whore, a dyke, a fool, a wanton, contentious, ill mannered, a feminist, and the government will make sure she doesn't starve to death and pass from society's scene. She doesn't need a godly man, she has Uncle Sam to take care of her if need be.

A godly woman, in today's circumstances, is more valuable and more honorable than even in Bible days, because she willfully chooses the path of virtue, rather than being forced by circumstance. But, as more men wake up to their destiny and calling, more women may find themselves forced to adapt and compete for the decent, godly man. As men embrace their destiny, it WILL affect the women folk. And vice versa. Godly women will not settle for spiritual and moral weaklings and bums.

[Esaias]

Next, I'm going to look at the family as a unit, especially in light of the Fifth Commandment, and how this applies to the question, "How can we save civilization?"

Assuming this is a subject people are actually interested in...

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Esaias

20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor;
Yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.
21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household:
For all her household are clothed with scarlet.
22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry;
Her clothing is silk and purple.
23 Her husband is known in the gates,
When he sitteth among the elders of the land.
24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it;
And delivereth girdles unto the merchant.
25 Strength and honour are her clothing;
And she shall rejoice in time to come.

The virtuous woman, suitable to a son of God destined to exercise dominion in this earth, is a woman who is not only industrious in managing her house and her family's needs, but she is also charitable and does not fail to extend assistance to the poor. A woman suited to rule with her husband is one who, like all genuine rulers, is concerned about the welfare of others less fortunate. Now, she's not an idiot SJW type who endangers her family's well being because of an irrational and overbearing philanthropy, but she is definitely not miserly and wholly self centered, either.

In addition, her husband is known in the gates. That is, he's an important, influential person, who is involved in local affairs and influences or at least gives counsel to decision makers, if he's not a decision maker himself. Notice, SHE doesn't feel the need to harp at the city gates, her husband is there. She and her husband function as one political unit, united in purpose and effect. She doesn't cancel her husband's vote, she reinforces it, and supports his efforts. Together, they make dominion possible.

26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom;
And in her tongue is the law of kindness.
27 She looketh well to the ways of her household,
And eateth not the bread of idleness.
28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed;
Her husband also, and he praiseth her.
29 Many daughters have done virtuously,
But thou excellest them all.

She speaks wisdom. Since the fear of God is the foundation and source of wisdom, the wisdom she speaks is God's, not society's. She is educated in God's Word and God's Ways. She is no typical college SJW "woman's studies graduate". She is a gofly woman who upholds and TEACHES GOD'S WORD, especially to her children, but to also to any she interacts with. Whatever she says is from the truth of God, not the lies of Cosmopolitan magazine or feminism or any other ism.

Her children esteem her highly, as does her husband, and rightly so. She leaves a legacy, a godly legacy worth praising.

What a contrast to many of the XX chromosome carriers shuffling about our streets these days, passing themselves off as "women"! And why so many? Because, first, men tolerate them. Fathers, husbands, brothers, friends, they tolerate the UNvirtuous "woman", so there is no societal check on unvirtuous bad behavior. Second, they are subsidized by tax dollars via welfare and divorce precedent. A woman in America has no NEED to be virtuous, she can be a whore, a dyke, a fool, a wanton, contentious, ill mannered, a feminist, and the government will make sure she doesn't starve to death and pass from society's scene. She doesn't need a godly man, she has Uncle Sam to take care of her if need be.

A godly woman, in today's circumstances, is more valuable and more honorable than even in Bible days, because she willfully chooses the path of virtue, rather than being forced by circumstance. But, as more men wake up to their destiny and calling, more women may find themselves forced to adapt and compete for the decent, godly man. As men embrace their destiny, it WILL affect the women folk. And vice versa. Godly women will not settle for spiritual and moral weaklings and bums.

Powerful

[Esaias]

Exodus 20:
12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

Ephesians 6:
1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. 2 Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise; 3 that it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth. 4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

The "first commandment with promise" is the Fifth Commandment. It is not only the first of the ten commandments to include a promise attached to obeying it, but it is the first commandment that explicates how to "love thy neighbour". The first four relate to God, the other six relate to other people. And first on the list of commandments relating to others is the command to honour one's father and mother.

The promise is that your days would be long on the good land that God gives you. This discussion has been about reigning and exercising dominion over the earth, which is our duty as well as our destiny. In order to do that, our days must be long on the earth. We have to stick around. If your days are short on the earth, this means you do not stick around, you don't last, you are removed. When Israel came out of Egypt, the Amorites' days were numbered, they weren't long for this world.

From this, we see the meaning of the promise. It is not just that you personally may have a long happy life. But that your family, your people, would exist and proliferate (and even exercise dominion) for a long time. The family endures, therefore its dominion endures.

But this is conditional on honouring father and mother. Failure to honour father and mother means you are on the way out, your days are numbered. And if you pass that tradition on to your children, the tradition of failing to honour father and mother, then your family, your progeny, your legacy, isn't long for this earth. You and yours will fade away and be brushed aside. On the other hand, honouring father and mother activates the Divine Promise. You, your children, your prosperity, will be long on the earth. Which means godly dominion extends and increases and proliferates throughout the earth.

But what does it mean to honour your father and mother?

At the simplest and most basic level, it means to take care of them, especially in old age (Mark 7:10-12). Simply passing Mom and Dad off to the old folks home, effectively putting them out to pasture, is not honouring father and mother (absolute medical necessity aside). Many people abandon their parents in their old age. And no wonder we are being removed from any dominion, effectively being replaced and dispossessed off the land, shunted aside and slated for destruction (see the opening post). But honouring father and mother includes more than just financial support.

Malachi ch 1 details God contrasting sons honouring their fathers with Israel dishonouring God (their Father). The manner of the dishonour shown to God involved despising the altar and offering the lame and sick, considering the divine service of the temple as a weariness and a burden. In other words, they dishonoured their heavenly Father by not valuing the heritage He gave them, and by complaining about His rules.

Parents establish rules for their children, and have expectations for them and their behaviour, even as adults. Traditions are handed down, priorities are established. The son or daughter who dishonours their parents is the one who can't wait to move out of the house so they can be "free" of all that parental guidance. They want to live their own life, and cast their parents' ideas, values, traditions, principles, hopes, and dreams into the rubbish bin.

A child who honours their parents however takes their parents seriously. Parental advice, counsel, guidance carry weight with them. Parents who teach their kids to maintain and continue a family tradition of positive values are teaching their kids to honour their parents.

Obviously, not all parental guidance is good, especially if one's parents are sinners, heathens, etc. But even heathen sinner parents often transmit some good things to their children. Certain values, traditional principles, ought to be maintained and passed down from one generation to another. Your parents ought to be valued, their counsel and advice ought to carry quite a bit of weight with you. It ought to require a massive weight of evidence for you to discount their opinions, and yes, their wishes.

Take marriage for example. Parents always had a say so in who their children married. Such is not only historical, but Biblical. A parent who said "You will NOT marry such and such" was usually heeded. And guess what? Families maintained more cohesiveness, stability, happiness, prosperity, and influence in those days compared to today. Now, your daughters and sons shack up with whoever, often ruining their lives and their family. No consideration is given to maintaining the continuity of the family line. And no wonder, people have been brainwashed to despise their parents, grandparents, their heritage, family history... in short, people are adrift as isolated individuals without a sense of belonging to something bigger than themselves.

God knows best. There must be continuity from generation to generation. The good must be passed down and carried on. The idea that parental authority magically disappears when a child turn 18 and/or moves out of the house is completely unscriptural. It is a modern invention, invented by those who have an agenda to destroy your family and make sure you and yours have NO dominion whatsoever.

[Esaias]

Isaiah 51:
1 Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged. 2 Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him. 3 For the LORD shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the LORD; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.

Father and mother aren't terms limited strictly to Dad and Mom. They extend back across generations. Father and mother are terms referring to all who came before you in your family line. They must be honored as well. Do not despise your ancestors! Take all that is good from them and carry it forward. Learn from them.

Each generation has a vested interest in the generations to come. You have a vested interest in your children, and your grandchildren, and so forth. And your grandparents have a vested interest in YOU. You therefore are not just here in life, living for yourself. Your ancestors expect you to carry their family forward. If they didnt, they should have. And the same is true of your grandkids and great grandkids.

This way of looking at things is foreign to the modern American, for the most part. But this is how most people in all cultures and all times have understood things. And the breakdown of the nation is a result of the breakdown of the family, which begins by losing that traditional view of FAMILY, and the intergenerational responsibilities that accompany being in a family.

But this is BIBLICAL. Notice, Israel was told to look to their father Abraham and their mother Sarah. They were told to value and emulate their ancestors, who were an example of godliness. This was important to the nation, because the nation was in reality an extended family. The nation of Israel was a family, descended from Abraham.

The very word nation is related to nativity and natal, which refer to birth. Biblically, a nation is a large collection of families related to one another by descent from a common ancestor. The nation of Edom was descended from Edom (Esau), Jacob's brother. The ancient nation of Egypt was descended from Mizraim, a son of Ham.

EVERY nation is descended from someone, and so every member of that nation is FAMILY. We are not talking about "countries", or the modern concept of "nation", where many families may exist and constitute the "nation" while being completely unrelated to each other. But we are speaking Biblically. A Biblical nation is a group of families related to one another, having been BORN from a common ancestor.

An Israelite following after righteousness would respect and value their ancestors, THEIR ancestors. They would consider themselves part of that FAMILY, and thus Abraham's family would have continuity. Thus, the NATION stays strong and continues, and lives long on the earth, and prospers.

Your family is more than just your immediate household. It includes your PEOPLE, your NATION. And people who operate and think Biblically recognize and value their family, including their extended family of tribe and nation. There is a reason for the term "kinsman", it is because your kinsmen are related to you, and have a claim on you, and you on them, as FAMILY.

Rediscovering this mentality is vital to regaining a Biblical perspective, and building Biblical FAMILIES, that are going to be capable of reigning on this earth in the will of God.

[Esaias]

"But we are to call no man father on this earth!"

This had to do with religious titles used by rabbis, and is not a command to abandon your dad.

"Say not we have Abraham for our father"? This was in reference to thinking just because an Israelite was an Israelite that alone would secure their place in God's good will. It is not, and never was. One must personally be in the grace of God, in His covenant, mere ancestry won't cut it.

"I'm not even an Israelite!" Maybe, maybe not. But every nation was made by God (Acts 17:26) and holds value to Him. Your nation, your tribe, your people, your family hold value to God. They matter to God. They should matter to you, too.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

"But we are to call no man father on this earth!"

This had to do with religious titles used by rabbis, and is not a command to abandon your dad.

"Say not we have Abraham for our father"? This was in reference to thinking just because an Israelite was an Israelite that alone would secure their place in God's good will. It is not, and never was. One must personally be in the grace of God, in His covenant, mere ancestry won't cut it.

"I'm not even an Israelite!" Maybe, maybe not. But every nation was made by God (Acts 17:26) and holds value to Him. Your nation, your tribe, your people, your family hold value to God. They matter to God. They should matter to you, too.

[Amanah]

Esaias this is such a great thread.
You are offering solid answers for the crises we are facing.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Esaias this is such a great thread.
You are offering solid answers for the crises we are facing.

Glad to see you back posting!