San Diego UPC Choir TEARS IT UP with Michael English and Mark Lowry

[Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by CC1

I have not seen the clip but if memory serves me correct I believe you are correct. I remember SoCali saying they were there.

Michael English was one of my favorite singers in his heyday. What a voice. His exwife goes to our church I believe. I hope he finally gets his life together.
He is on his umpteenth chance.

Aren't we all...

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by South of I 90

CR, I have to disagree with you somewhat on this. When the stuff came out on Sandy Patti, she quit touring and did not come out with another cd for quite awhile (years).

Here singing career has not come back to popularity she was at one time.

Also the music industry is not very "friendly" to her genre now.

The music industry possibly handled Michael English wrong to some extent initially, but in the long run it looks like they made the right decisions.

Believe me, his mistake with Marabeth Jordon (First Call) was not his only "major" transgression.

Very true. Her career is not the same. I haven't read her book, "Broken on the Back Pew", but if it could minister to someone, then who am I to say?

Originally Posted by Margies3

and who, pray tell, would his "well known" house mate be?

Chan, I re-iterate: Sad, just sad!!

try bubba mckneely - it is well known - i know people who are kin to bubba that will verify

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Chan

The problem I have is with the seeming hypocrisy of the UPC saying trinitarians aren't saved while singing their songs, selling and reading their books, and relying on them to translate the Bible.

Of course, trinitarians are almost as bad (but trinitarians don't rely on oneness folks to translate their Bibles).

The UPC, Chan, does NOT have an official statement that says Trinitarians are not saved. If that is hypocrisy then Trinitarians are hypocrites for relying on a bible (kjv) whose main text is from Erasmus. It's not hypocrisy to use someone elses material as long as that material is doctrinally sound especially since it's not that material that is in question nor the doctrine OF that material that is in question.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

Aren't we all...

No sir all of us are NOT adulterers. It is a chioce not a disease.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Dan endorses the doctrine of Balaam. He also thought there was no harm. See where it got them.

oh judge and jury - didnt know God was off of the throne and turned the judgement of man over to you - guess i better be nicer to you since you decide where i am going to spend eternity

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The UPC, Chan, does NOT have an official statement that says Trinitarians are not saved.

True but since when did that ever stop anyone?

If that is hypocrisy then Trinitarians are hypocrites for relying on a bible (kjv) whose main text is from Erasmus.

Given that Erasmus was largely a humanist, I agree.

It's not hypocrisy to use someone elses material as long as that material is doctrinally sound especially since it's not that material that is in question nor the doctrine OF that material that is in question.

But it cannot be "doctrinally sound" if it comes from unsaved people.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by NLYP

I applauded him for refusing the awards and he also gave back every one he won. As a sign of repentance and humility.

NLYP, It got worse after the initial affair that brought him down.

I will say this: He tried to make it outside of gospel music, but with little success. He eventually came back to gospel music where he could make a good living.

I question the sincerity of anyone who sings gospel music because he can't make it anywhere else!

ME is now re-married and has a little boy. I won't comment about NOW, but before he got married he was a FAKE!

[Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

No sir all of us are NOT adulterers. It is a chioce not a disease.

No sir, we are all sinners!

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

NLYP, It got worse after the initial affair that brought him down.

I will say this: He tried to make it outside of gospel music, but with little success. He eventually came back to gospel music where he could make a good living.

I question the sincerity of anyone who sings gospel music because he can't make it anywhere else!

ME is now re-married and has a little boy. I won't comment about NOW, but before he got married he was a FAKE!

Doesn't matter. The boy can sing!!!! He 'ministers'.