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Old 08-02-2007, 11:20 AM
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Just to clarify my stance...

Whatever other nutty stuff that Bishop Johnson believed as far as standards are concerned that are unscriptural, including the cotton stockings doctrine, I want it understood that I DO give the Bishop a pass, in my own judgment.

On the other hand, regardness of the correctness of all the other things a person believes, except they are born again of the water and of the Spirit, KNOWING and acknowledging ONE GOD, they are LOST, inspite of their correctness in everything else.

Give me a ONE GOD preacher who may or may not be wrong about some things over a Trinitarian preacher regardless of his correctness in everything else. The latter will send you to hell, while the former will guide you safely beyond the gates of pearl.
That is precisely what I tried to say in an above post.

I agree.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:30 AM
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That is precisely what I tried to say in an above post.

I agree.
I thought you said it quite well. I was agreeing with you.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:30 PM
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So Johnson was excused in all of his error as long as taught the one God message.....interesting? If that is the case then that leaves a great deal of room for error.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:37 PM
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So Johnson was excused in all of his error as long as taught the one God message.....interesting? If that is the case then that leaves a great deal of room for error.
No one has said that.

Errors in secondary issues aren't necessarily salvational.

But regardless of what else a man is right about, if he is a trinitarian and doesn't teach the New Birth, he is lost.

Surely you see the difference in that view vs. what you posted.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:39 PM
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I see it only to a degree. He taught everythis as salvational even it is wasn't.... going to hell for wearing nylon. This was taught to his congregations and they continued to condem others for things that weren't "salvational".
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:46 PM
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So Johnson was excused in all of his error as long as taught the one God message.....interesting? If that is the case then that leaves a great deal of room for error.
What it means is that Johnson could teach that Santa Clause was coming to town and it would be alright because he wasn't holding to the "trinitarian" view that a pantheon of Gods were looking down on us. Wait... I don't know ANY trinitarians (outside of my dear departed Grandma who was VERY Catholic) who believe in a pantheon of gods......
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:51 PM
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Brother Strange,

This is what I am learning around here...

Trinitarians are saved.

People that baptize in the titles are saved.

People who don't receive the Holy Ghost, yea, who don't even believe you can receive the Holy Ghost, they're all saved.

Pretty much everybody is saved except an Apostolic preacher who preaches any standard not specifically spelled out in the New Testament in a minimum of two or three places.

So, sad as it seems, in the great judgment bar of AFF, Jerry Falwell is walking on golden streets, while S.C. Johnson is in hell.

Go figure
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Evidently this needs to be said for the fourth time around here.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:54 PM
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Ferd, you don't have to be sarcastic.

Moving this discussion right along. What about those people who refuse to hear anyone else except for Johnson. They sit at home and play his tapes as a means of food for their soul.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:56 PM
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Ferd, you don't have to be sarcastic.

Moving this discussion right along. What about those people who refuse to hear anyone else except for Johnson. They sit at home and play his tapes as a means of food for their soul.
I don't think that is very smart, but at least they will hear the only saving message--Acts 2:38.

Folks who follow trinitarians or other false prophets and false teachers have no chance to hear the Truth.
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Old 08-02-2007, 01:01 PM
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Well, they are of the belief that Johnson is the only called preacher and teacher of the word. If you don't hear it from him then you haven't heard it and you are in danger of hell fire. That is a salvational issue to me because it sounds like idol worship. Those who want to hurry and place him in an elite seat in heaven might want to think about that.
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