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Old 09-02-2007, 02:20 PM
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You are right...BUT it would have been over his talent and asset to the church NOT the doctrine.
I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. AM will definitely miss his talent...but AM is not happy with anyone leaving the UPC for a "lesser veiw" of the Apostolic doctrine....
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:22 PM
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I don't know AM personally and you do.

Bu that doesn't sound like the AM I have heard preach, Dan.

I don't know how he could be happy about the doctrine RP doesn't preach.

Do you want to go on record as saying that that doctrine doesn't matter.

The AM I know personally would not agree with someone leaving for what could be considered "less" doctrine...
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:24 PM
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Standards....he will give great latitude...but Acts 2:38, baptisms necessity, the new birth as preached at POA, and oneness of the godhead...

AM has fits over someone leaving the upc for less of this....
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:26 PM
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Standards....he will give great latitude...but ACts 2:38, baptisms necessity, the new birth as preached at POA, and oneness of the godhead...

AM has fits over someone leaving the upc for less of this....


Are you out of POA, triumphant1?
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:29 PM
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Are you out of POA, triumphant1?
No...

But I was closely mentored by AM for several years...AM even dedicated my youngest son to the Lord at the POA on a Sunday night...great and unusual privilege...

I know that AM is very strong on the Apostolic doctrine and its necessity...

He does give leeway to varying standards...but he is staunch on the "doctrine"...
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:32 PM
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No...

But I was closely mentored by AM for several years...AM even dedicated my youngest son to the Lord at the POA on a Sunday night...great and unusual privilege...

I know that AM is very strong on the Apostolic doctrine and its necessity...

He does give leeway to varying standards...but he is staunch on the "doctrine"...

Thanks for your answer........so many are from there, I just couldn't remember if you were.
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:36 PM
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Thanks for your answer........so many are from there, I just couldn't remember if you were.
U R welcome....
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:20 PM
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I don't know AM personally and you do.

Bu that doesn't sound like the AM I have heard preach, Dan.

I don't know how he could be happy about the doctrine RP doesn't preach.

Do you want to go on record as saying that that doctrine doesn't matter.
The reply to this post should be good. From what I know about AM you are well on your way to backslidden if you even consider letting down on the doctrine.

NLYP we wait on your answer.
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Old 09-02-2007, 05:49 PM
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The AM I know personally would not agree with someone leaving for what could be considered "less" doctrine...
I agree. I don't think anybody who really keeps up with AM and POA would think that AM would "approve" of a staff member going to a church that preaches less than AM does as doctrine.

However AM is a gentlemen and a good friend of the Phillips family who are out of his church.

I have personally heard from AM's mouth that along with his dad KP is one of the men he admires the most or something to that effect.

Two things are at play here that people need to realize;

1. AM's long term relationship with JO and POA would mean that AM would
know that JO has his mind made up and to be ulgy about it woulde be
useless and counterproductive. I do believe he privately expressed his
opinion but did not push it.

2. Secondly AM's close relationship with KP and RP would make him less likely
to make a fuss that he knows would be pointless anyway as JO is no
novice making a spur of the moment decision. If he came to that decison
I don't think anything AM would say could have changed it.

AM's detractors will probably try to infer that there is some sort of tacit approval of less than the full 3 step PAJC Acts 2:38 plan of salvation if AM does not denounce JO and his move but they would be wrong I believe.

He is just a man of tact and class and is not going to be ugly.
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Old 09-02-2007, 05:51 PM
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NYLP,

If you make it to Nashville I would love for us to arrange a AFF lunch with Pianoperson, St. Matt, myself and any other area folks who can attend.

If you have not been back to CC since the building program you also need to come by for a tour. If you stay for church Sunday we can sprinkle charismatic dust on you and pray you through and make you say the sinners prayer.
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