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Old 09-08-2007, 05:24 PM
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Mary did not mother God, but Jesus Christ got his flesh from her.
Exactly.

However, the "Son" was "made of a woman" (Galatians 4:4). If the Son is eternal, Mary has to be as well.
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:27 PM
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Ok.. do natures talk, pray, love each other?
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THE I AM ANSWER WAS THE SAME ANSWER YOU GAVE HIM ... but keep repeating the question ... maybe he'll acquiesce and say you've been right all along.

Care to answer his question, now? oloroid
I did not give him "the same answer." I finally decided that was the only answer I would get from him (which didn't really answer the question at all). I took the best I could get and used it.

In response to his "natures" question, I have not used the term "natures" in this discussion. He is the one who brought it up. I have discussed that the Father is the Divinity. The Son is the Humanity. Can humanity love and pray to Deity? Of course!
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:28 PM
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The Son did exist in the mind of God prior to His virgin birth , but God did not manifest Himself as a Son till His virgin birth.
I can't understand this with Human reasoning ,but I do accept what the scriptures declare.
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:28 PM
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Do "coequal persons" pray to one another?
Jesus in humanity did.
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:30 PM
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The Son did exist in the mind of God prior to His virgin birth , but God did not manifest Himself as a Son till His virgin birth.
I can't understand this with Human reasoning ,but I do accept what the scriptures declare.
If God manifested himself as a Son, then the Father has to be the Son. Maybe you worded it wrong?

Also, what scripture says that the Son was in the mind of God?
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Jesus in humanity did.
I agree. That's EXACTLY the way I explain the prayer as well.
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Believer how would you explain your view on the composition of God?
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:31 PM
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If God manifested himself as a Son, then the Father has to be the Son. Maybe you worded it wrong?

Also, what scripture says that the Son was in the mind of God?
Earlier, you defined "God" as "I AM," not as the "the Father." Here, however, you define "God" as "the Father." Thus, you DO indescriminately apply whatever definition you choose.

If we are going to accomplish any meaningful discussion, you need to define your terms.
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:33 PM
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Exactly.

However, the "Son" was "made of a woman" (Galatians 4:4). If the Son is eternal, Mary has to be as well.
You didn't get this doctrine from Gal 4:4. If you read it in context, it clearly states the Son was sent forth...then He was born of a woman. the sending forth came first. Well, if you take the scripture a face value.
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