VAUGHN MORTON'S FAREWELL Letter !!!

[chaotic_resolve]

Leaving the UPC by having your dues drop is the easy way out. That way, the only thing on record for the minister leaving is that his dues were unpaid, so the UPC dropped him.

It's all about appearance with these folks. They list their pedigree and time spent in various local, district and headquarters offices as a way of reminding everyone how big they are or once were.

What I don't understand, for these men of such alleged conviction and integrity . . . why not go on record with the organization and resign, instead of making the record appear as though the UPC dropped them?

Not calling them cowards, I'm just saying they are very calculated in maintaining their image and they don't want their image to show they left the UPC . . . they want the record to show the UPC left them.

"The church that tells it like it is . . . Because we care." LoL I like it.

[CC1]

I thought the letter was fine. I am pleased to see him state that his intentions are not to tear down the UPC or talk ill of it.

[tv1a]

At least he put it in writing.

Originally Posted by CC1

I thought the letter was fine. I am pleased to see him state that his intentions are not to tear down the UPC or talk ill of it.

[pelathais]

What was the distribution? He didn't send it out to the UPCI mailing list (or at least not yet). If he wanted real drama he could have gone that route.

Still it seems to be a lot of weight is being put behind such a trivial issue. At least trivial to me. VM seems to be saying that this isn't "the straw that broke the camel's back" but an intolerable weight in and of itself.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by pelathais

What was the distribution? He didn't send it out to the UPCI mailing list (or at least not yet). If he wanted real drama he could have gone that route.

Still it seems to be a lot of weight is being put behind such a trivial issue. At least trivial to me. VM seems to be saying that this isn't "the straw that broke the camel's back" but an intolerable weight in and of itself.

you gotta remember he is very old fashiond and up in years pelathais.

I give him a pass simply because i understand the mentality of the old gaurd.

also, i think in his heart of hearts he really didn't want to leave. that's all i will say

[Coonskinner]

Not surprising.

If Vaughn Morton gave a million bucks to the St. Jude Foundation, there would be some people criticizing him for it just because they don't like him and what he stands for.

I hope some of you penny ante critics know how utterly petty and pathetic your little nit picks sound.

I feel like I need to go take a shower.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Not surprising.

If Vaughn Morton gave a million bucks to the St. Jude Foundation, there would be some people criticizing him for it just because they don't like him and what he stands for.

I hope some of you penny ante critics know how utterly petty and pathetic your little nit picks sound.

I feel like I need to go take a shower.

I thought they was being kinda nip-picky too really

[Dora]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Not surprising.

If Vaughn Morton gave a million bucks to the St. Jude Foundation, there would be some people criticizing him for it just because they don't like him and what he stands for.

I hope some of you penny ante critics know how utterly petty and pathetic your little nit picks sound.

I feel like I need to go take a shower.

But has he ever done something like that? Has he or any of the other guys who are leaving taken up a generous offering for charity or sponsored a soup kitchen on Thanksgiving or established a home for unwed mothers or opened their family life centers for a mobile health clinic to offer free or low cost medical attention for the poor? Why is this kind of thing not focused on in our ranks?

I can't remember our churches actually reaching out to provide for the physical needs of the less fortunate in the community.

We did provide much love and support for those who regularly attended church. If there was a death in the family, the ladies were on the ball bringing covered dishes and the men helping in any way they could. The congregation surrounds their own with care and concern. That is wonderful and good, but what about those outside the doors of the church?

Just a thought...

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Dora

But has he ever done something like that? Has he or any of the other guys who are leaving taken up a generous offering for charity or sponsored a soup kitchen on Thanksgiving or established a home for unwed mothers or opened their family life centers for a mobile health clinic to offer free or low cost medical attention for the poor? Why is this kind of thing not focused on in our ranks?

I can't remember our churches actually reaching out to provide for the physical needs of the less fortunate in the community.

We did provide much love and support for those who regularly attended church. If there was a death in the family, the ladies were on the ball bringing covered dishes and the men helping in any way they could. The congregation surrounds their own with care and concern. That is wonderful and good, but what about those outside the doors of the church?

Just a thought...

Dora,...er.....I think Coonperson was just trying to make a point. That he believes no matter how good of a thing this guy might do people would find fault in it. In other words he could not have written a letter that would not have been criticized by some people no matter what it said.

[Dora]

Originally Posted by CC1

Dora,...er.....I think Coonperson was just trying to make a point. That he believes no matter how good of a thing this guy might do people would find fault in it. In other words he could not have written a letter that would not have been criticized by some people no matter what it said.

CC1...derrrr...I know that...but his comment just brought this thought to my mind...excuse me for taking it there...

These guys are so busy trying to obliterate outward standards violations that the deeper spiritual and actual physical needs of the lost are on the second or third page of their priority lists.

btw...there's nuthin' wrong with his letter...