You Be The Judge: Anderson Vs Burk

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Hesetmefree238

I don't know that I can give you a scripture that says certain parts of
Matthew 24 are for the 1st century and that certain parts are for the
end time. What I can tell you is that there are more scriptures that talk
about the 2nd coming of Christ and the literal resurrection of the dead
than there are scriptures that tell us that baptism should be performed
in Jesus's name (which I certainly believe in). As I said, the 2nd coming
and resurrection of the dead are as foundational as the death, burial,
and resurrection of Christ.

Hebrews 6:1-2
1Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

2Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

Amen again.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

BUMP

Didn't Elder Epley accuse Elder Burk for NOT answering questions?

With all due respect Elder Epley, could you please explain with chapter and verse the above question. For you to even have an opinion on the dating of the book of Revelation you should be able to discuss the above scripturally.
Not your opinion, because then if what you believe on the book of Revelation is just your opinion, then you can't honestly give much of an argument against Apostolic Pentecostals who believe Biblical eschatology is fulfilled.
You braided Elder Burk throughout this entire forum claiming he didn't answer questions and yet my own questions to you go unanswered.

Please Elder Epley, I mean you no offence and please I hope you don't take any to my continual asking for the above to be answered, but I would like you to explain the above in detail.

Thank you for being a friend and a Brother.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Again Elder Benincasa all my stuff is in storage concerning the dating of the Book of Revelation. However Elder Andersen is answering this question. Elder Chalfant wrote a complete chapter on this in the book. I recommend reading that.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

[/SIZE][/B]Also Elder Epley please respond to the above.RespectfullyIn Jesus nameBrother Benincasawww.OnTimeJournal.com

I have stated it very well COULD mean a temple is built?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Elder Burk????????????????????????????????

Bro. Epley, what do you want me to say? I have said repeatedly that NO AFP that I know of disbelieves in the physical resurrection of Jesus. So the "evidence" you gave (Jn 2:19; 1 Cor 15:20, 23; Col 1:18; Rev 1:5) I would agree with 100%.

Bro. Epley, I think you’re a bit confused. Our disagreement is over whether the Bible says that a physical body will ever live into eternity. You say, “Yes." I say, "No." Therefore the verses you need to supply are those that agrees with your premise that a believer’s physical flesh and bone body will NOT return to the dust, but will instead be immortal. You also need verses that say the resurrection is to be physical rather than spiritual. Can you give any such verses to support what you believe?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Hesetmefree238

I don't know that I can give you a scripture that says certain parts of Matthew 24 are for the 1st century and that certain parts are for the end time. What I can tell you is that there are more scriptures that talk about the 2nd coming of Christ and the literal resurrection of the dead than there are scriptures that tell us that baptism should be performed in Jesus's name (which I certainly believe in). As I said, the 2nd coming and resurrection of the dead are as foundational as the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ.

Hebrews 6:1-2
1Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

2Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

Hesetmefree238, thank you for being honest and admitting that you cannot give any scriptures proving there is a gap in Matthew 24.




And how does Bro. Epley answer that????

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Amen again.

Bro. Epley, you just keep helping AFP more and more...

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Again Elder Benincasa all my stuff is in storage concerning the dating of the Book of Revelation. However Elder Andersen is answering this question. Elder Chalfant wrote a complete chapter on this in the book. I recommend reading that.

Your stuff's been in storage since 2003???

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Bro. Epley, what do you want me to say? I have said repeatedly that NO AFP that I know of disbelieves in the physical resurrection of Jesus. So the "evidence" you gave (Jn 2:19; 1 Cor 15:20, 23; Col 1:18; Rev 1:5) I would agree with 100%.

Bro. Epley, I think you’re a bit confused. Our disagreement is over whether the Bible says that a physical body will ever live into eternity. You say, “Yes." I say, "No." Therefore the verses you need to supply are those that agrees with your premise that a believer’s physical flesh and bone body will NOT return to the dust, but will instead be immortal. You also need verses that say the resurrection is to be physical rather than spiritual. Can you give any such verses to support what you believe?

Christ is the FIRSTFRUITS He resurrected BODILY thus the righteous resurrect BODILY if He is in fact the FIRSTFRUIT. Paul declared His resurrected body would no more return to corruption Acts 13:34 and He is the FIRSTFRUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by afp1996

Let me get this straight.

Your position will be that there is a future visible coming of Jesus Christ.

My position will be that there is not going to be a future visible coming of Jesus Christ.

Your position will be that there will be a future rapture of the Church.

My position will be that there will not be a future rapture of the Church.


Is this the debate topic?

If this is the debate topic, we will need to also define what "the" rapture is. This will be important to the second part of the debate topic.

I must have missed this before. I am sorry I did not answer this previously.

correct. Rapture/ressurection as defined in "futurism". I trust you are aware.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Your stuff's been in storage since 2003???

It's in a blast-proof vault prepared against the inevitable. He want's his "stuff" to be as immortal as his handsome frame.

[Hesetmefree238]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Christ is the FIRSTFRUITS He resurrected BODILY thus the righteous resurrect BODILY if He is in fact the FIRSTFRUIT. Paul declared His resurrected body would no more return to corruption Acts 13:34 and He is the FIRSTFRUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is it about FIRSTFRUITS that some people don't understand. It is
saying that he has set the example for us of what constitutes the
Christian's resurrection. We will be resurrected bodily as Christ was.

St Luke 24:38-40
38And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

39Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

40And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.

Christ was resurrected in bodily form. He was the firstfruits. He was raised
with an incorruptible body just as we will have when we are resurrected.

1 John 3:2
2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

We will be resurrected just like the Lord was, and we will be transformed into
his image.