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Old 08-23-2007, 10:10 AM
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ya killin me, fo sura, dt

That's "fo sho." LOL
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:13 AM
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That's "fo sho." LOL
that is so funny, see what you are doing brother strange, dont help her, she has enough fun allready, lol,dt
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:15 AM
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that is so funny, see what you are doing brother strange, dont help her, she has enough fun allready, lol,dt

I don't need help anyway.

LOL.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:16 AM
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I don't need help anyway.

LOL.
ok i surrender, keep laughing, i can afford it, lol,dt
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:38 AM
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ok i surrender, keep laughing, i can afford it, lol,dt

Yer not skeerd are ya? LOL
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:41 AM
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Yer not skeerd are ya? LOL
no my friend i aint afeared, but i just know when to surrender and when to fight, dont fight when you cant win, lol, dt
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:43 AM
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no my friend i aint afeared, but i just know when to surrender and when to fight, dont fight when you cant win, lol, dt

I knew it, you're skeerd. LOL, just kidding.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:44 AM
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I knew it, you're skeerd. LOL, just kidding.
see what i mean, lol,dt
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:15 AM
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I respectfully disagree with your assessment of one's ability to not be angry and love their enemy while grabbing an attacker to keep him from hurting their wife.

You requested scripture that shows where the use of deadly force is OK.

Now I'm asking you to provide scripture that shows where its OK to use ANY kind of force, including grabbing, against one's enemies.

Grabbing an attacker would definitely NOT be gentle, rather, it would be forceful.

Where is your scriptural justification for this? Did Jesus do this?

Turn around is fair play.

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Old 08-23-2007, 04:52 PM
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Prax,

From my POV, "Love Your Enemies" supersedes any attempt to take the life of another person for their acts against yourself or your family. If they are enemies of my wife, they are my enemies, and I am commanded to love them. One cannot fufill the command to love their enemies while taking their life at the same time.

But just so you have the balance, One full of love can love their enemy and at the same time grab hold of him and keep him from hurting the wife, the attacker, or himself, and have no anger towards the attacker that would cause him to do bodily harm to him.
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I respectfully disagree with your assessment of one's ability to not be angry and love their enemy while grabbing an attacker to keep him from hurting their wife.

You requested scripture that shows where the use of deadly force is OK.

Now I'm asking you to provide scripture that shows where its OK to use ANY kind of force, including grabbing, against one's enemies.

Grabbing an attacker would definitely NOT be gentle, rather, it would be forceful.

Where is your scriptural justification for this? Did Jesus do this?

Turn around is fair play.
Sis,

I have bowed out of this, as I do not see anything being accomplished out of it. But I will answer you because you have asked.

I gave scripture that from my viewpoint would not allow someone to use deadly force on an enemy.

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

While I know it is possible to stop someone from doing violence to another through means other than deadly force, because I had a job that required me to do such, I do not see where one can fulfill this scripture and use deadly force on someone at the same time.

For my belief I have now been labeled as "too spiritual" and "worse than an infidel". Since I do not particularly like to be victimized, I am doing the non-violent thing , and simply not posting here further. You folks that can figure out how to blow some robbers brains out and love him at the same time can have at it. I will do my best to live my convictions, and should I fail in the time of testing, I have an advocate with the Father.
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