Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You see, you have taken a story of a child being dragged to a lit stove and being burned and manipulated it. I never in all my years posting from FCF to now ever posted as YOU have about a child. The list doesn't go on, because at no time have I ever said what you have about a child, or someone's childhood. As far as you using people as your human shields that has been noticed by other posters. Aquila you've used me and what happened to me being beaten to unconsciousness as a child, used the story of "a" child not your opposition. A child who was dragged by a drunken stepparent to a lit stove for punishment. A child who soiled himself because of the combination of fear and searing pain. Praise Jesus you removed Isaiah 1:17 as your signature post. Because you only want to learn to learn how to appear good, act like you correct oppression. Bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow’s cause? Chris, there is no way, someone would take a story of a child being tortured and use it to their own advantage. To turn around and make Isaiah 1:17 their own. That's legalism, saying all the right things, smiling, hugging, Christianisms flowing out of the mouth sweeter than honey, with a mind filled with soiled loaded kitty litter box. No shirt and a tie? Women wearing skirts? That's not legalism God is talking about, He is talking about those who profess Jesusisms while having a mind loaded with child murder.







The above sounds familiar to anyone who had been brutalized as a spouse, or as a child. The torture, and then the plea of sorry, let's make it good, and move on. You see people like you always love the part of move on. While I'm hardcore about repentance and moving forward, I would like to say something before you forget the whole thing. Forgetting the whole thing so you can play Christian again. I don't need to apologize Chris, because I wasn't the one who equates child discipline with torture. Unless, in your mind burning a child with a cigarette is the same as verbal correction and reprimand? You might, I have no reason to doubt you that you actually believe in brutalizing a child into submission. People who have been badly brutalized as a child, as a spouse, or a senior citizen, recognize the individual who tortures then wants to forgive and forget. They also want the one who was abused to take some form of responsibility for their own beating. They employ the word 'we" a lot in their apologies to the one curled up in a corner with tears mingled with blood.

You would like to move on just so you can dive back into your Churchanity Nicer Than Jesus Shuffle of Angel's Feet persona. But, Chris, this isn't about me. This is about your true feelings towards those who have gone through mental and physical abuse. You ran for page after page filling an entire thread with me concerning PTSD. Do you know how many CHILDREN have PTSD? How many battered spouses have PTSD? Bro, this is because you have no idea of what you are talking about when in comes to this subject. Hence the reason why you don't even understand the videos or articles you have posted. You claim to have lived all this, but you didn't give it a second thought to use a story about "a" child being tortured to get even with your opponent?

Apology? Move forward? Chris, you need to straighten out what is going on in your own personal life. Instead of want to straighten out what is going on in your internet life. Bro, you are in a house church, then go hang out with some brothers and have a prayer meeting. You posted that you were going to make some time to fast, pray and get soaked in the Word? Sounds good if it actually gets carried out. It is straight up legalism if you just say it and never do it.

I got through the first three sentences of your diatribe and realized that you feel like you can tell people everything is in their heads, that they have low T, criticize and accuse others of being abusive to spouses, that they don't have Jesus, and call their family circumstances lies...but if they do that very same thing to you, you fall back like you're going to faint, start the tears, and act like a victim. I did this to only one of your life stories and you shatter like a wine glass at an Ella Fitzgerald concert. You've done this repeatedly to me, and others, but you don't see it, or worse, you don't care. You made it clear that our issues, trauma, past physical and spiritual abuse, concerns, and experiences mean NOTHING to you if it challenges the dogma of your opinion. Therefore, all things being equal, your issues, trauma, past abuse, and experiences are equally invalid and open to mockery. Pull up your big girl panties and take it like a man. After all, you dished it out.

You've never shown the slightest bit of empathy toward a number of us. Why should you be shown any empathy? Why are you, as you might say, all upset like "a puppy pooping peach pits" (or something like that, isn't that what you've said before) now that someone stood up to you and returned the very same lack of empathy you've demonstrated repeatedly?

If it's any consolation, it sounds like a lot of us had bad childhoods. But since our experiences, families, and concerns never mattered enough to deserve any empathy, neither do yours.

Perhaps if it was never your intention to do that to others, now would be a good time to say so. Or...you could respond with more lack of empathy and your traditional litany of personal insults. Let's see what you choose to do.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I got through the first three sentences of your diatribe and realized that you feel like you can tell people everything is in their heads, that they have low T, criticize and accuse others of being abusive to spouses, that they don't have Jesus, and call their family circumstances lies...but if they do that very same thing to you, you fall back like you're going to faint, start the tears, and act like a victim. I did this to only one of your life stories and you shatter like a wine glass at an Ella Fitzgerald concert. You've done this repeatedly to me, and others, but you don't see it, or worse, you don't care. You made it clear that our issues, trauma, past physical and spiritual abuse, concerns, and experiences mean NOTHING to you if it challenges the dogma of your opinion. Therefore, all things being equal, your issues, trauma, past abuse, and experiences are equally invalid and open to mockery. Pull up your big girl panties and take it like a man. After all, you dished it out.

You've never shown the slightest bit of empathy toward a number of us. Why should you be shown any empathy? Why are you, as you might say, all upset like "a puppy pooping peach pits" (or something like that, isn't that what you've said before) now that someone stood up to you and returned the very same lack of empathy you've demonstrated repeatedly?

If it's any consolation, it sounds like a lot of us had bad childhoods. But since our experiences, families, and concerns never mattered enough to deserve any empathy, neither do yours.

Perhaps if it was never your intention to do that to others, now would be a good time to say so. Or...you could respond with more lack of empathy and your traditional litany of personal insults. Let's see what you choose to do.

No, Chris, you got caught as you have been by others before. You just can't deal with it when your so called Christianity is challenged. Fasting, prayer, getting soaked in the Word? Chris, you just like posting it but never doing it. I have never did what you did concerning a child being tortured. You did. Empathy? So when you falsely show empathy it should be counted towards your righteousness? Sorry, but you honestly need a prayer room. I'm not kidding or being sarcastic. Fasting, prayer, and getting soaked in the Word sounded good. Chris? When do you start?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

No, Chris, you got caught as you have been by others before. You just can't deal with it when your so called Christianity is challenged. Fasting, prayer, getting soaked in the Word? Chris, you just like posting it but never doing it. I have never did what you did concerning a child being tortured. You did. Empathy? So when you falsely show empathy it should be counted towards your righteousness? Sorry, but you honestly need a prayer room. I'm not kidding or being sarcastic. Fasting, prayer, and getting soaked in the Word sounded good. Chris? When do you start?

Yep, more lack of empathy, and a litany of insults. You're too predictable.

Oh, now you were "tortured" as a child.

You mocked me being shot at twice as a young person.
You mocked my niece in law Hope, who has two disabled children. You mocked my grandfather's death, you mocked my mother's death. You mocked my military service, you mocked what happened during my military service, you mocked the effects of the legalism my church had on my family, you mocked my kids going to public schools. You've mocked the details of my divorce, you've mocked my mother in laws healthcare concerns. You've mocked my PTSD, you mocked me seeing a counselor over it. You've mocked others for needing counseling, you've even mocked those on medication for issues you dying even believe exist. You've mocked and berated me and others on all of these things.

But, oh, my stars, I mocked you being "tortured" by your step mom, whose evil must rival that of ISIS, and treated you the same way you've treated me and now you're beating the victim drum with feigned outrage.

Typical abuser. The loud mouthed tyrant becomes the victim when someone punches back.. I bet you don't even remember that I shared a few of your statements about my family, veterans, and those needing health insurance on my Facebook just to see if anything you said was out of line, or if I was crazy. Buddy, I had people who were moved with more disgust for you than anything you've seen here. Your saving grace was that I didn't post your name. All they know is that you are a preacher/evangelist. It was so bad, the words of disgust and outrage people who know me had for your statements caused me to delete it.

That brings up another thing...you bill yourself as an evangelist. I profess no religious office or title. In all honesty, you should abide by a higher standard than me in your words and conduct. If you can't hack it, maybe being an evangelist isn't your thing.

I think it's evident who got caught dishing it out, but unable to take it.

Besides, as you've indicated about my posts constantly, I don't even know if your story is true. If my response bothers you so much, see a counselor. You're clearly not over whatever it was that happened.

[Esaias]

Don't Hug me I'm Scared:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C_HReR_McQ

[Esaias]

Psychiatry is a Fraud & is all about Control - MU…:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhC6hUZJIJ0

[Esaias]

Psychiatry: Science or Fraud:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atsCp2SErog

[Esaias]

PSYCHIATRY THE DANGEROUS PSEUDOSCIENCE PART #3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cUyV70Gm9Y

[Esaias]

https://pro.psychcentral.com/ptsd-is...al/003311.html

A recent issue of the Journal of Anxiety Disorders (Vol. 21, 2007) focused on the troubling possibility that the PTSD (posttraumatic stress disorder) construct is not nearly as valid as has been assumed. The articles are both fascinating and provocative and are well worth reading.

The journal kicks off with a bombshell of a study by Bodkin and his colleagues at McLean Hospital. The researchers enrolled 103 subjects who had originally been recruited for clinical trials of antidepressants. As part of the original study protocol, all patients were administered the Structured Clinical Interview for DSM-IV Axis I Disorders (SCID). The SCID has a section on PTSD, which instructs raters to first ask patients if they have ever experienced a traumatic event (“criterion A”). If the patient responds positively, you ask about the remaining criteria (B-F) in turn, but if there has not been a trauma, you are to skip the questions and code the patient as not having the diagnosis.


In this fiendishly clever study, however, raters asked about criteria B-F even if there was no traumatic event. This is not as easy as it sounds; for example, how does one ask about flashbacks or nightmares in the absence of a traumatic event? To get around this, researchers asked subjects to think about something they had been worrying about, and then referred to this worry when they asked the questions. For example: “Have you had any nightmares about the possibility that you might have to declare bankruptcy,” and so on. What were the results? Of the 103 subjects, 54 had experienced a traumatic event, and of these, 42 (78%) of them also met symptomatic criteria for PTSD. Thirty six patients had never experienced trauma, and when these non-traumatized patients were interviewed, fully 28 (also 78%) met all the remaining criteria (B through F) for PTSD (Bodkin JA et al., J Anx Dis 2007;21:176-182).

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But if PTSD is so nonspecific, why did the diagnosis become so popular? In another article in the same issue, McHugh and Treisman of Johns Hopkins trace the history and genesis of the PTSD concept (J Anx Dis 2007;21:211-222). Surprisingly, the first formal definition of PTSD did not occur until 1980, with the publication of DSM-3. However, army doctors had known for decades that traumatic events often led to a syndrome that included emotional numbness, anxiety, flashbacks, and nightmares. World War I military doctors treated “shell shock” with brief removal from the combat zone and with psychotherapy emphasizing that the reactions were normal responses to combat and would soon dissipate.

The authors trace the ascendancy of “PTSD” to the Vietnam war. In their opinion, the diagnosis of PTSD in Vietnam veterans served several purposes at once. Veterans found a PTSD diagnosis less stigmatizing than alternative diagnoses, such as alcoholism and personality disorders. As an institution, the Veteran’s Administration found the diagnosis useful in expanding its own bureaucracy and ensuring continued funding for specialized PTSD treatment units.

After Vietnam, the ranks of PTSD patients swelled, and in 1983, Congress, alarmed at how much government money was being spent on PTSD treatment, commissioned a special study of its prevalence. The results, released in 1988, showed that almost a million of the 3.14 million men who served in Vietnam had suffered PTSD at some point. This number astounded many, particularly since only 20% of veterans had been assigned to combat units.

Apparently, some type of amplification of symptoms was going on, to put it charitably. This issue was taken up in another article in this issue, bluntly entitled “Pseudo-PTSD,” by Rosen and Taylor (J Anx Dis 2007;21:201-210). They note that PTSD is particularly vulnerable to malingering, both because the diagnosis is so often used in litigation, and because the symptom checklist is easily memorized and easily feigned. Clinicians are often fooled: in one study, even when clinicians were made aware of the possibility of malingering, many were unable to tell “real” from “fake” PTSD. Nobody knows how common malingered PTSD is, but the authors cite the forensic expert Philip Resnick’s estimate that it is as high as 50% of all PTSD presentations.

[Aquila]

If you REALLY want to hurt or shatter people suffering from PTSD, here are the things to say...or have you already said these things?

[votivesoul]

I thought about locking this thread down 20 some pages ago, and handing out some disciplinary action; but then as I considered what I was reading, I realized it served a better purpose to keep the thread open and to let everyone posting or reading along, to get whatever they wanted to say about the subject or each other, off of their chest.

Sometimes things have to get nasty in order for things to get honest. And a lot of honesty has come through, if even between the lines, if not in the actual content.

But at this point, I don't think this thread has any valuable traction left in it.

I hope that those who have participated may come back to this thread in a couple of weeks or a month from now, reread or at least skim through it and see if most of this mess of a thread actually represented the Christ we all claim to love and serve.