You Be The Judge: Anderson Vs Burk

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by ChTatum

How are you two brethren showing up as "offline" and posting? Isn't that deceitful?

How's it deceitful?

Originally Posted by ChTatum

Prophet, how do you know I did not read his explanation?

And you are complaining about someone else being "deceitful"??? What exactly is it when you misrepresent what another person teaches?

Originally Posted by ChTatum

One chides another for "pre-written articles" and another references previous posts to refute current posts.

That's the way it is with discussions such as this. Until one point is answered, there really is no point in moving on....

Originally Posted by ChTatum

Oh, the drama......

What, in waiting on you to present something other than pointless criticisms?

Be blessed!!!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by ChTatum

How are you two brethren showing up as "offline" and posting? Isn't that deceitful?

Is it only deceitful when people you are not agreeing with do it?

Because as far back as FCF a huge list of people always were invisible, as they are today. Some of those are people you consider friends of yours.

Originally Posted by ChTatum

Prophet, how do you know I did not read his explanation?

No need for the prophetic, more like the pathetic. Since your snide remarks make it look like you didn't read it through.

Originally Posted by ChTatum

One chides another for "pre-written articles" and another references previous posts to refute current posts.

Oh, the drama......

No drama here Chuck, just stabs and jabs from individuals like yourself.
Which are no problem, but if you really wanted the truth from this discussion you would bring the adult meter up a few clicks. Like maybe bringing forth some dialog instead of your typical pot shots.



In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

How's it deceitful?

Because he's bored and really had nothing better to offer?

Originally Posted by TK Burk

And you are complaining about someone else being "deceitful"??? What exactly is it when you misrepresent what another person teaches?

For Chuck I guess the answer would be... fun?

Originally Posted by TK Burk

That's the way it is with discussions such as this. Until one point is answered, there really is no point in moving on....

That is how the free thinking world believes it, but when you are defending a religion or traditions you tend to discard all forms of reason and common sense.

Originally Posted by TK Burk

What, in waiting on you to present something other than pointless criticisms?

Again, boredom and lack of anything constructive to add to the conversation.

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Be blessed!!!

I am

In JESUS NAME

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[ChTatum]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

How's it deceitful?



And you are complaining about someone else being "deceitful"??? What exactly is it when you misrepresent what another person teaches?



That's the way it is with discussions such as this. Until one point is answered, there really is no point in moving on....



What, in waiting on you to present something other than pointless criticisms?

Be blessed!!!

LOL!

Thanks brother. I do appreciate the time you put into posting here also, may not agree, but it is good reading, and you do a good job of stating your position.

[ChTatum]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Is it only deceitful when people you are not agreeing with do it?

Because as far back as FCF a huge list of people always were invisible, as they are today. Some of those are people you consider friends of yours.

I am invisible, but not showing as offline. Every way of a man is right in his own eyes, right brother? I think I read that somewhere once.


No need for the prophetic, more like the pathetic. Since your snide remarks make it look like you didn't read it through.

Here, I agree. Some of my remarks are snide.



No drama here Chuck, just stabs and jabs from individuals like yourself.
Which are no problem, but if you really wanted the truth from this discussion you would bring the adult meter up a few clicks. Like maybe bringing forth some dialog instead of your typical pot shots.


Uh-oh, sounds like one of those pot shots may have hit something.


In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Take care, brother. I really do need to work on this subject, as I am less than totally informed. May the very best God has for you come to pass.

[shag]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Jason, are YOU still learning WAR?

Are you serious about the JW's?? You have NO idea!!!

I just had a college graduate who majored in philosophy talk with me. He is going to all kinds of churches, religious groups, and synagogues looking for answers. He wanted to know how I can prove the legitimacy of the Bible being “God’s Word.” I told him that the evidence of the “virgin birth” cannot do it. Neither can the “30 pieces of silver” Judas received when betraying the Lord. These, as well as many other “prophetic evidences” are all subject to whether a person believes the Bible for what it says. Then I asked him: what if I can show you passages written hundreds of years BEFORE Jesus was born, and Him teaching those while prophesying detailed occurrences that He said would come within His generation, and then showing you that they did happen exactly 40 years (a biblical generation) after Jesus foretold them, and then being able to substantiate those with non-Christian witnesses, would THAT prove to you that maybe something was supernatural behind such writings? He excitedly said, “YES”! That talk lasted about ½ hour. He told me he had never had anyone approach his question in such a way. I did not know he was going to do this, but he came to Church that Sunday. That day I taught on why Jesus said, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” from the cross. I showed that Jesus’ words was a prophetic utterance from Psalms 22, and that He used those words to confirm “fulfilled prophecies” to those at His cross. This man then came to my home on Monday for a 3½ hour study. He now wants to come every week for more. Does Fulfilled Eschatology give a person hope? You better believe it does!!!

If you’re still in doubt, just ask Bro. Benincasa about the numerous marathon studies he’s had with every religious and non-religious person imaginable. Ask him how Fulfilled Eschatology shuts the mouths of the critics and the doubters and how it also converts the sincere to believe Jesus is exactly who the Bible prophecies Him to be. Jason, he uses this message to teach about Jesus to both Muslims and Jewish Rabbis at the same time. Can you do that with Dispensationalism?

Hey guys! How's my 2 radical AFP friends doin' tonight?

TK, I appreciate your sharing this testimony, please let me know how it turns out, OK?

I do have a question for you guys, (I'm not lookin to spar any scripture tonight,) rather get your personal opinions, aside from scripture, concerning 1 thing. I have a lot of trouble seeing that the earth as it is can go on forever as it is. I mean reasonably, logocally thinking, we're gonna overpopulate, overtoxicate, overpolute, and destroy this great earth it seems to me. Places like the rain forest etc..., are sooner or later gonna be wiped out if people keep reproducing, wouldn't you say? Does this type of reasoning not ever trouble you, and if not, how does it not? Is it as simple as "trust in the Lord, and dont lean to your own understanding...."? Thanks for taking the time to reply, as it seems to me a legitimate question.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sounds wonderful Elder, I have no problem with you doing the above.

I see that you didn't want to attempt to answer the questions I have asked.
Therefore we are reserved to come to a conclusion that you really don't fully understand what you yourself believe concerning your form of eschatology. This by no means makes you any less of a Brother or a friend.
I have read your posts for years now and eschatology is not one of your specialties. I don't think that is a problem, unless you start asking questions and refuse to give answers when you yourself are questioned. I think that is unfair.

Preterists wether they are Partial or Full continue to give answers when questioned. You have proven by your response to me that all your notes are locked away in storage, that you believe that pre-written material is fine just as long as it is you who is using the pre-written notes.

I surprised that you said, asking preterists questions and trying to get an answer is like trying to nail jello to a wall, since that is what most Dispensationalists do when presented with the clear contradictions of their teachings. Elder Epley I always wondered why you never at least changed your stance to non-Dispensational Post Trib, or even Partial Preterist since your only problem it seems is a physical resurrection of all the saved dead.

I have read posts where you explained what I believe to men who asked questions on what was Preterism, and you did a good job of presenting what we believed. Not once have I read where you ever typed that we DON'T believe in a resurrection. Until this thread. I was shocked when I saw you post that to Elder Burk. Let's continue to have this discourse without any misrepresentation.

With much respect.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

my friend early on when Elder Smith put out his paper when I answered him one of my points was what seemed to me a denial of the resurrection. I honestly do NOT percieve how you have a resurrection in the Biblical sense without a body raising?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Jason

Tk you can shout it from the rooftops, everyone else can clearly see that this is describing Full Preterism perfectly.

That is true they need the Elder's article from Alaska.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Jason

No brother, HAD me bound, I am not bound anymore, nor should anyone who has had the blood applied to their life be bound.

However, to say that Satan himself is bound that evil has already recieved its final judgment and we are all living in the millenial kingdom, where "men shall learn war no more" seems like quite a strecth. Do the words "World War 1, World War 2, Hitler, and the such like" mean anthing to you?

The Jehovah's Witnesses bring more hope to the door steps of people in America than a full preterist would.

True. Just think God has NOT had ONE word to say about nearly 1900 years of human history and has nothing to say about the future if the world lasts another 1000 years.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Jason

Brotehr, the scripture says it as plainly as it says to baptize in Jesus Name. Just because some don't see the message plainly stated in scripture doesn't mean scripture doesn't specifically address it. Now is this not plain?:

Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. 2 Timothy 2:18

Are FP's not saying the EXACT same thing? Case closed.

Walks like a duck-looks like a duck-quacks like a duck it is probably a duck.