I need to slow down my reading, I thought you guys were talking about a city in Northern California, the origin of nutrition for newborns, the Osmond family, morons, and Monty Python!
TLC is moving there when he leaves the UPC to restart JCM as a new commune!
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i have been in the church for over 38 years, i believe what i have believed since a teen, i am sure there are hundreds of ideas of what orthodoxy is on this forum, i havent changed, wont change, the bible is my guide and his spirit my leader, dt
Why are you bringing change into the mix? Do you believe that is what is taking place here? An attempt to change someone's mind or belief system?
You know what I find so interesting is that really this forum has caused me to re-think and challenge my beliefs and further my abililty to publicly state what I believe and understand about baptism and standards, and most topics having to do with doctrine, salvation, tradition, and culture, etc.
I would venture a guess that most garden variety Apostolic saint would have a difficult time were they put on the spot to totally exhaust their beliefs to someone else, and further have the abilty to instantly respond to the difficult questions posed here by various folks.
I would say that most apostolic pew sitters would break out in a cold sweat if their statement of belief was challenged from an academic standpoint and not necessarily from an antagonistic perspective.
You know why I say this? I have tried it and you know what? After the cold sweat, atomic anger and indignation follows.
I guess I said all that to say, I am glad folks can hit the topics from all sides, hopefully it gives folks a stronger ability to become an apologetic for their faith.
Carpenter, I agree with the above 100%. I dont mind the challenge, I dont mind debating the scripture.
You have been around long enough to know that i dont even mind a good old fashioned knock down drag out brawl.
in fact that is why I have not reported AFFs most verbose when he has stated things like we are discussing. I guess that is my problem.
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i have been in the church for over 38 years, i believe what i have believed since a teen, i am sure there are hundreds of ideas of what orthodoxy is on this forum, i havent changed, wont change, the bible is my guide and his spirit my leader, dt
As far as I am concerned both the Water/Spirit doctrine and the PCI doctrine (wish I had a better term) are both "Orthodox"
but when I get called a Papist for believeing the Water/Spirit doctrine....well then I get testy.
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