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Old 07-30-2008, 02:49 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

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Yes.

Here's a link to an interesting statement regarding a literal Hell...

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=16282

if you have not read this statemnet, i suggest you read it, it tells all ya need to know about being saved and if you think you do not need this-you are so wrong, there is a hell and if your not saved then i suggest you get saved because we are running out of time, you can ask me if i have been saved? yes i have i live a oneness life , this was a good post thank you
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Old 07-30-2008, 03:03 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

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Literal Fiery Hell, that is the place where all the Trinitarians go.

Evan- i am a true oneness, but for you to say this the way you did, you are so wrong, there is a way to witness, but not like that, now come on, you have to agree you were a little hard on the trinitarians, if i was trinitarian i would be mad to,, by the way you put that, it is judgemental, there is a soft word turneth away wrath, and what you said was not soft, just be careful how you word things, just a little advice take it easy on people and have a little mercy, for God be our judge, and by the way we all have our own beliefs, and pray for the people who need God, because there is alot lost, dont be so harsh next time, have a little LOVE,


LOve all even the trinitarians, how will we save the lost if we cannot witness
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Old 07-30-2008, 04:39 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

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Literal Fiery Hell, that is the place where all the Trinitarians go.
This is so sad, judgmental, unscriptural, and ungodly. To say this, you have added one more prerequisite to salvation, Benincasa...

1. Repent (this point is very seldom pushed as it should be).
2. Be baptized in Jesus' name.
3. Receive the Holy Ghost baptism.
4. Believe in the Oneness doctrine.

So, this would imply a four step false doctrine salvational theology.
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This is so sad, judgmental, unscriptural, and ungodly. To say this, you have added one more prerequisite to salvation, Benincasa...

1. Repent (this point is very seldom pushed as it should be).
2. Be baptized in Jesus' name.
3. Receive the Holy Ghost baptism.
4. Believe in the Oneness doctrine.

So, this would imply a four step false doctrine salvational theology.
Bill, all I need to do is a wait for a couple of months to pass and you will agree.
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Old 07-30-2008, 07:58 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

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Bill, all I need to do is a wait for a couple of months to pass and you will agree.
There is nothing Christian about your posts... There is nothing Godly about your attitude toward others... You are clearly not of God, at least based on the fruits of your lethal tongue... Your words do not bring life, but you speak only death...

John 8:44
"You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies."
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Old 07-30-2008, 08:09 AM
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Evan- i am a true oneness, but for you to say this the way you did, you are so wrong, there is a way to witness, but not like that, now come on, you have to agree you were a little hard on the trinitarians, if i was trinitarian i would be mad
If you were a Trinitarian you would be saying that the Oneness teaching is damnable heresy, and they would go on to explain how you are in a cult.

You would have to then "teach" them that you are not, and they would "teach" you that you are wrong. There are some in our church who are ex-Trinitarians who believed that if you didn't accept the Trinity you would be a lost potato.

My wife was devoted Eastern Orthodox who was raised with the Trinity teaching that it was essential to the Orthodox faith. Any good Trinitarian would be pleased to let you know that you MUST believe in the Trinity.

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to,, by the way you put that, it is judgemental, there is a soft word turneth away wrath, and what you said was not soft, just be careful how you word things, just a little advice take it easy on people and have a little mercy, for God be our judge, and by the way we all have our own beliefs, and pray for the people who need God, because there is alot lost, dont be so harsh next time, have a little LOVE,
Tell you what go and tell all the Trinitarians that you fellowship with that you believe that Jesus Christ is "The Father", The One True Living God, and Jesus is the ONLY PERSON in the Godhead, instead of making excuses how they and you believe almost the same thing.

Those Trinitarians will explain to you very sternly, and a matter of factly that you are wrong and as long as you believe that Jesus is the Father, you are JESUS ONLY and will go to hell.

Find a nice old Church of God pastor and let him explain it to you. He won't be sweet and sticky with you.

You need to tell the Trinitarian to forsake the teaching of the Trinity, it is demonic.

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LOve all even the trinitarians,
If you love them you will tell all the One God people not to excuse the Trinitarians but warn the Trinitarians to forsake a devil's hell.


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how will we save the lost if we cannot witness
I think it's not the Trinitarians who need to be witnessed to on this thread, it's all of you who think the Trinitarian will be saved even if they believe in a three faced god.
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Old 07-30-2008, 08:15 AM
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There is nothing Christian about your posts... There is nothing Godly about your attitude toward others... You are clearly not of God, at least based on the fruits of your lethal tongue... Your words do not bring life, but you speak only death...
Yes, nice nick Abundant Grace, for sure. Take it easy and tell the Trinitarian the truth. As for your new friend Billy, he will change his mind after some months and post against what you believe. So relax.

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John 8:44
"You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies."
Very nice use of scriptures Abundant Grace.
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Old 07-30-2008, 09:05 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

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Here's a newsflash for you, Trinitarians preach against three headed gods too.

Oh please! They try time again and again and it doesn't work when you get down to it they believe in one God who has three consciences in some form or another. You can say "I don't and they all confer to each other in one perfect harmony thus no distinction!" yada yada yada. Yet when you get down to the scriptural points instead philosophical mumbo jumbo it's three Gods!
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Old 07-30-2008, 09:08 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

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If you were a Trinitarian you would be saying that the Oneness teaching is damnable heresy, and they would go on to explain how you are in a cult.

You would have to then "teach" them that you are not, and they would "teach" you that you are wrong. There are some in our church who are ex-Trinitarians who believed that if you didn't accept the Trinity you would be a lost potato.

My wife was devoted Eastern Orthodox who was raised with the Trinity teaching that it was essential to the Orthodox faith. Any good Trinitarian would be pleased to let you know that you MUST believe in the Trinity.



Tell you what go and tell all the Trinitarians that you fellowship with that you believe that Jesus Christ is "The Father", The One True Living God, and Jesus is the ONLY PERSON in the Godhead, instead of making excuses how they and you believe almost the same thing.

Those Trinitarians will explain to you very sternly, and a matter of factly that you are wrong and as long as you believe that Jesus is the Father, you are JESUS ONLY and will go to hell.

Find a nice old Church of God pastor and let him explain it to you. He won't be sweet and sticky with you.

You need to tell the Trinitarian to forsake the teaching of the Trinity, it is demonic.



If you love them you will tell all the One God people not to excuse the Trinitarians but warn the Trinitarians to forsake a devil's hell.




I think it's not the Trinitarians who need to be witnessed to on this thread, it's all of you who think the Trinitarian will be saved even if they believe in a three faced god.

Interesting how people want to have all the fuzzy feel good! Yet the vast majority you find Oneness people being cast into hell because we don't believe in the Trinity. I don't judge them. I just tell them it's wrong and could have eternal implications!
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Old 07-30-2008, 09:13 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

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This is so sad, judgmental, unscriptural, and ungodly. To say this, you have added one more prerequisite to salvation, Benincasa...

1. Repent (this point is very seldom pushed as it should be).
2. Be baptized in Jesus' name.
3. Receive the Holy Ghost baptism.
4. Believe in the Oneness doctrine.

So, this would imply a four step false doctrine salvational theology.
In my own

4) How about faithfulness!
5) Oneness very well could have eternal implications. Who do you say that I am!
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