Church Rejects $600,000 Tithe From Lottery Winner

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by tbpew

where is the principle of a matter?
Generally folks here get their shorts in knot over hyper legalistic minutae being applied as error based in "adding to the scripture"...but can anyone receive the heart of the matter and express a godly principle that can edify all of us?

I'm not out to stop anyone wanting to send a card into publisher's magazine and put themselves on every tormenting follow-up call in the hopes that Ed McMahn will knock on their door.

Is there any principle here that can guide us and be the source of a general agreement that is both good to us and good to the Holy Ghost?

Gambling is the same as smoking, neither are a sin in and of themselves, but it's not worth it to potentially dance too close to the fire and make an addiction my God.

But this is my choice, it is my perspective and my conviction...you do what you want.

[HeavenlyOne]

I know someone (he was a licensed UPC minister at the time) who tells of the story about how God Himself told him to go to a certain gas station and buy one ticket of a certain kind. He did and was an instant winner of $2,000 a month for life.

His pastor refused to accept his tithes, and, as a result of his 'gambling', he had to give up his UPC license.

Makes me wonder why the devil would have told him such good news.....

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Gambling is the same as smoking, neither are a sin in and of themselves, but it's not worth it to potentially dance too close to the fire and make an addiction my God.

But this is my choice, it is my perspective and my conviction...you do what you want.

I know a man who went to work.

Found a pretty woman.

Then left his family.

Would one instruct or teach him not to work.

Or would one instruct others not to work.

Since the snare of lonley people sit next to us at work.

The key is to seek the Lord and know your weakness.

And to understand we are all different.

Yes we do need to understand that our actions will influence others.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by tbpew

any man who desires the office of a guiding overseer should be of good report to them that are WITHOUT.

Rico, I could care less about tithes and pastors making decisions about right and wrong.....I care about how the community of faith is seen by those who are WITHOUT.

If teachers and guides among the community of faith instruct concerning the error of seeking gain through a wager, a bet, or gambling....to then receive the increase from these actions as a blessing is nothing but a stumblingblock for those who are WITHOUT.

Brother, apostolics are seen as a cult to those who are WITHOUT and it has nothing to do with money.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Rico

Brother, apostolics are seen as a cult to those who are WITHOUT and it has nothing to do with money.

Compile all the sermon tapes from Apostolic churches on Sunday.

I "bet", Oh sorry bad word to use in this thread.

That a very high percentage of Apostolic churches preach some where in the service.

That giving an offering as a sowing pledge will bring them prosperity or a better health.

It is starting to be more and moe about money.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Gambling is the same as smoking, neither are a sin in and of themselves, but it's not worth it to potentially dance too close to the fire and make an addiction my God.

But this is my choice, it is my perspective and my conviction...you do what you want.

Carp,
you normally post as someone who considers the bigger picture....
the bigger picture here is the additional player.....the local community (via a reporter).

If somebody does something in private (serves meat that was an offering to an idol), it is no matter to me if I eat it.

But if I ask, or that same person says, I just dragged this from the mits of Dagon, then the matter takes on a whole new reality.

What is wisdom here....gambling is good when you win?

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

I know someone (he was a licensed UPC minister at the time) who tells of the story about how God Himself told him to go to a certain gas station and buy one ticket of a certain kind. He did and was an instant winner of $2,000 a month for life.

His pastor refused to accept his tithes, and, as a result of his 'gambling', he had to give up his UPC license.

Makes me wonder why the devil would have told him such good news.....

HO,
stop wondering.
Take a moment and ask God.
When you get a word, please come back and post it here.
Bless us with a definitive word that you have received to some specific questioning of God.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by tbpew

Carp,
you normally post as someone who considers the bigger picture....
the bigger picture here is the additional player.....the local community (via a reporter).

If somebody does something in private (serves meat that was an offering to an idol), it is no matter to me if I eat it.

But if I ask, or that same person says, I just dragged this from the mits of Dagon, then the matter takes on a whole new reality.

What is wisdom here....gambling is good when you win?

See Donald Trump made a billion dollars in Real Estate.

He did so well what did he do next?

He took his gambling skills from the Real Estate market.

Went out and built more real estate and then moved in the slot machines.

His genious was that he expects the rest of the dummies on this planet not to ever take a leap of faith, or as some of us do not want to call it "a gamble".

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Gambling is the same as smoking, neither are a sin in and of themselves, but it's not worth it to potentially dance too close to the fire and make an addiction my God.

But this is my choice, it is my perspective and my conviction...you do what you want.

Thanks!

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Sherri

We teach that it's better to stay away from it; it's a bad witness and some people cannot handle it. We had one man who lost his family, his house, his job, everything because of a gambling addiction. It's also an example of very poor stewardship.

To me, it's like alcohol. A drink won't send you to hell, but we teach abstinence because it can cause someone to stumble, it's a bad witness, and some people cannot handle it casually.

We do NOT teach that gambling or drinking are heaven/hell issues, but issues of discipline.

Well if I move to Jackson, can I just be an undisciplined member of your congregation and win I win, I promise to bless the Church?

When I play, I'll promise to make sure that I don't bring the stubs on to the platform with me.