I'm waiting to see where Burk thinks Jesus has already come back. ???
LOL! Maybe I missed something, or misread what someone said. I thought that was Brother Anderson who thought that. I better go back and reread the debate.
Im closing the debate down. I PM'd Bro Anderson and posted here how the debate needs to go.
I will wait a little while longer, then it's closed and the debaters are removed
I hope this doesn't happen. I would really like to address Bro. Anderson's accusation and prove it in error.
I am still trying to find where he ever showed what the apostles taught on any of his points, and then where he showed how their teachings differed from AFPs.
Anyway, if he is still up to it, I am more than willing to continue.
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I hope this doesn't happen. I would really like to address Bro. Anderson's accusation and prove it in error.
I am still trying to find where he ever showed what the apostles taught on any of his points, and then where he showed how their teachings differed from AFPs.
Anyway, if he is still up to it, I am more than willing to continue.
fish-n-a-barrel...TKB.
many OP's have been preprogramed to accept and believe. it would be impossible for me to defend many of things i've been taught as being "Apostolic". while I believe Bro.Anderson believes what he believes very much...and can defend it very well...that does not make it truely "Apostolic".
many OP's have been preprogramed to accept and believe. it would be impossible for me to defend many of things i've been taught as being "Apostolic". while I believe Bro.Anderson believes what he believes very much...and can defend it very well...that does not make it truely "Apostolic".
i do hope this debate continues...
I can appreciate your point. What must be remembered regarding this is that Bro. Anderson is the one who first accused AFPs of not having the "same Jesus" as did the apostles. When I challenged his assertion, he asked me to debate it with him. However, he never showed what the apostles taught or how AFP differs.
I do not have a problem showing where AFP is found in the Apostles' doctrine. If he could have produced his arguments, I would have gladly explained. Sadly, it seems he is not willing to do this.
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere. -DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
Im closing the debate down. I PM'd Bro Anderson and posted here how the debate needs to go.
I will wait a little while longer, then it's closed and the debaters are removed
Didn't Bro. A say he was going out of town?
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I will mention that even though I am against full preterism, I don't think they have a different Christ. I think they just completely misunderstand scripture. This is why I have questioned whether full preterism is a "doctrine of devils". Not that the people who believe it are "debbils", but just that full preterism when completely mature leads someone away from Christ, not towards him. For the record, I think that full preterists, especially ones on this board love God, and are part of the church, despite their error.
i don't think this debate is going anywhere because it doesn't have much substance. There are much more black and white issues to be debated, such as-
Jesus second coming spiritual or physical/past or future
also the rapture, AOD, great white throne judgment, Armageddon/Gog& Magog.
Those are much more defined, the other seems to be based more on opinion, IMO.
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"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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I would debate Evg. Benincasa, but he'd never answer any questions.
BUMP
Are you up for a past/invisible coming of Christ versus a future/visible coming of Christ?
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"Resolved: That all men should live to the glory of God. Resolved, secondly: That whether or not anyone else does, I will." ~Jonathan Edwards
"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
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