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tv1a · #71 08-05-2009, 05:24 PM

I made it clear at least a couple times the difference between conservativism and legalism. Legalism is the attempt to impose personal convictions on others. Legalism is making a personal opinion salvational for others.

I have a television, but I don't have the Dish, cable or antenna. Does that make me a conservative. I'll fight fire and brimstone before I call that a monitor.

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Originally Posted by Servetus

Why do you guys want to paint all cons witht he same bursh. Monterrey says cons are weak because they preach against TV. And you (tv1a) say there is no scripture for the magic hair doctine.

To which I respond, 1)I do have a TV, and Dish network to boot and 2)I agree that there is no scripture for "magic hair." Yet reamin very conservative.

So (respectfully,not the way it sounds)- What is your point?

Servetus · #72 08-05-2009, 05:29 PM

So are you saying you don't have a problem with conservatives, even those who keep "standards" but only with legalists?

tv1a · #73 08-05-2009, 05:39 PM

I do not have a problem with conservatives.

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Originally Posted by Servetus

So are you saying you don't have a problem with conservatives, even those who keep "standards" but only with legalists?

Servetus · #74 08-05-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tv1a

I do not have a problem with conservatives.

There in we agree. I am quite conservative, go to a church called a "Holiness Church", keep standards, as those in my church do, but am quite hard on legalistic and unbiblical interpretations and enforcement of standards, as well as attaching salvational status to them. I do preach very strongly against such teachings.

All of which is the point of all my postings on this thread. So many have completely disregarded all modesty "standards", which is not necessary. All that we need to do is re-evaluate standards and our teachings concerning them. To drop them completely is a mistake.

IAintMovin · #75 08-05-2009, 05:57 PM

Quick question,

Why do we spend so much time worrying and crying, discussing and almost cussing over what others think concerning us?

There are some people who would walk into LFC and say to themselves - WOW!! this dude is come kind of ultra-conserative mean spirited freak..........simply by the lifestyle that people at LFC choose to live.........others would walk in and say, when seeing the same people, WOW!! what a loosey <even a word?> goosey weak, limp wristed little pansey that pastors this church - Bottom line..........who cares what those who are only out to get people to live to their line of standard think!!!

I am more interested in What Does HE Think?............ I preach, I teach - but I promise you this if people do not get a revelation FROM GOD concerning being dedicated.........my rules really dont mean a hill of beans. But when HE does the work..........then I am the one who walks in and says........... WOW!!

Servetus · #76 08-05-2009, 06:02 PM

What???

IAintMovin · #77 08-05-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Servetus

There in we agree. I am quite conservative, go to a church called a "Holiness Church", keep standards, as those in my church do, but am quite hard on legalistic and unbiblical interpretations and enforcement of standards, as well as attaching salvational status to them. I do preach very strongly against such teachings.

All of which is the point of all my postings on this thread. So many have completely disregarded all modesty "standards", which is not necessary. All that we need to do is re-evaluate standards and our teachings concerning them. To drop them completely is a mistake.

I understand what you are saying here, but PERSONALLY, I like to think of it as not keeping "standards", but rather "standards" keeping me............

tv1a · #78 08-05-2009, 08:10 PM

It appears standards are part of your personal salvation package.

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Originally Posted by IAintMovin

I understand what you are saying here, but PERSONALLY, I like to think of it as not keeping "standards", but rather "standards" keeping me............

IAintMovin · #79 08-06-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tv1a

It appears standards are part of your personal salvation package.

And brakes are a part of my car....... TV, EVERYBODY has some kind or part of a standard - even if it is to have NO STANDARD........

The problem is when people start worshipping the standard and not God.........

I dont worship my standards, but I am thankful that HE has placed in my life certain desires and longings.......if you cannot understand that then we must not be worshipping the same God - Yes they are a part of my salvation package (as you call it), but I promise you this, it is HIM that I am worshipping and it is HIM that I long to please............ actually no one or nothing else matters to me -

Be Blessed.......

The Mrs · #80 08-06-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by IAintMovin

FTR..........The Dude who started it, by his own choice, does not even have access to the forum - not sure if I am still listed as an admin, have been told that if I decide to return that it would be fine to remain an admin, but it is my choice......also FTR.....the one who started JP.com has nothing to do with the APF.com now, (did think it kinda funny how close the names are - but, hey after all we all love each other - right?)..........APF stands on its own and no ties to the first owner of JP.com...........The owner now is Rev. Douglas White.........IAM - no ownership whatsoever.........

And while I will never say never, I have no plans to return to APF.com..........nothing wrong with the forum, just a choice I make.........

Thanks for making things clear IAM!