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Old 02-15-2010, 11:27 AM
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This reminds me of the Pearl Harbor attack. How nearly 50 years later it is coming to the light that the President had been warned and others of the probably attack of Pearl Harbor.

So in light of that and the fact that Medina just mentioned about the large portion of the 9/11 investigation being covered up or hidden from the public, which ever term you want to use.

I didn't realize there was a large number of people questioning 9/11 as being a government cover-up. I guess I will need to do some research and see why they are even discussing this.
This is how I have viewed the 9-11 incident. It was the same as Pearl Harbor. We just didn't think something like that could happen to us.

We have planes off course, never been done before. Unimaginable that someone would do what they are about to do. If we crash them, people will get hurt anyway. It was too late and now we realize that we need to be more careful.

Palin is addressing that we need to correct that. I believe we need to follow Israel's lead who has an excellent record for safety on their airlines. They check people out, thoroughly, the moment a ticket is purchased. I feel that we have failed, big time, in this area.

And, BTW, when terrorism is involved there are some things that cannot be made public. That is just a given and I think it's short sighted of Medina not to know that. She is trying to incite passion on this. I don't like that.
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Old 02-15-2010, 11:35 AM
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I'm cool with that, girl!

I like Rick, have always liked Rick, will always like Rick.

My point is that we are having a divide in the Tea Party Movement. It's not coming together in a united fashion because you have the extremist trying to take over, you have the moderates and then you have the GOPers wanting it. It's just a mess. I'm just never going to side with those that are on the side of extremism. There are worse people out there than Debra Medina. But, I do acknowledge, that we all have a radical side that can be appealed to. LOL!

Gotta run some errands. I certainly don't want to divide friendship over this. It will all work out for Texas. It always does.
Doesn't effect my friendship at all.

I like people with an honest opinion. When folks poly parrot the masses instead of saying how they truly feel, that bugs me.
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Old 02-15-2010, 11:47 AM
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This is how I have viewed the 9-11 incident. It was the same as Pearl Harbor. We just didn't think something like that could happen to us.

We have planes off course, never been done before. Unimaginable that someone would do what they are about to do. If we crash them, people will get hurt anyway. It was too late and now we realize that we need to be more careful.

Palin is addressing that we need to correct that. I believe we need to follow Israel's lead who has an excellent record for safety on their airlines. They check people out, thoroughly, the moment a ticket is purchased. I feel that we have failed, big time, in this area.

And, BTW, when terrorism is involved there are some things that cannot be made public. That is just a given and I think it's short sighted of Medina not to know that. She is trying to incite passion on this. I don't like that.
Another reason they have an excellent safety record is they profile. Hello, if a dog bites you look for dogs not cats. lol
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Old 02-15-2010, 11:51 AM
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This is what you are referring to, I assume.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPDbm...layer_embedded


http://www.prisonplanet.com/sarah-pa...stigation.html

What Palin said in this clip:

"I do, because I think that helps us get to the point of never again and if anything that we can do could still complete that reminder out there."

This is clearly a security issue comment and not a governmental conspiracy comment.

The guy in the clip goes on to mention the air quality that he questions. That is what he is wanting to investigate.
No. Look at the question, who it was posed by and who it involves...

Here's some help...

The question was from the Ohio chapter of We Are Change, here's a cute li'l snippet from their site:

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We Are Change also seek an uncompromising and independent investigation into the crimes of 9-11, with subpoena power granted to obtain a long-overdue resolution for the survivors and families of the deceased. We reject the official explanation of the events leading up to, during and after the attacks of September 11th, 2001 as well as the fear-based politics and state mandated propaganda being disseminated by the Corporate Media which has facilitated the cover-up of 9-11.
TRUTHERS!

Now, the question and who it involves:

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“Do you support the family members and first responders who are calling for a new 9/11 investigation?”
The question isn't about security or air quality ... these people want to investigate the governments involvement or any alleged cover-up. They weren't satisfied with the 9/11 commission report and want a new investigation.

You can't say Medina is bad and Palin's okay for their answers ... it's hypocritical. At best, both were not prepared, or didn't know whom or what they were talking about.

Medina wasn't expecting to be asked about it, seeing as how it doesn't relate to the position she's running for...

And Palin was, as usual, clueless and spoke without knowing really what she was talking about or more specifically with whom she was speaking.

If Medina's answer makes her equal to Hitler (in Becks eyes), then Palin definitely should be the same.
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Old 02-15-2010, 12:40 PM
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And Palin was, as usual, clueless and spoke without knowing really what she was talking about or more specifically with whom she was speaking.
How is she going to know every single person she meets at a rally?

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It appears that Palin was saying there should be a new 911 investigation because any reminder of 911 plays into the NeoCon fearmongering of “we can’t let it happen again so we’ve gotta go after the terrorists.” She wasn’t advocating an investigation of WHO really was complicit in 911, but rather of what could have been done within the context of the official lies, to prevent another terror attack. She’s not trying to pander to truthers there, she’s just turning the question into something that lets her rehash the neocon party line and acting as if she doesn’t know the context of why there’s demand for a new 911 inquiry.
I don't believe she is acting like she doesn't know the context of why there is a demand. What I would like is an investigation into what could have been done to prevent that same type of attack?

My questions would be - If a plane, full of Americans, is off course, do you bring the whole plane down? Considering where the plane is off course, would that make matters better or worse? What could have been done in this situation with all planes involved?
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Doesn't effect my friendship at all.

I like people with an honest opinion. When folks poly parrot the masses instead of saying how they truly feel, that bugs me.
Right! Me too! I love honest opinion, whether I agree or not. And I do listen to both sides. Some views make my decision more solid and other views make me seek more questions and solutions. It's all good.

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Another reason they have an excellent safety record is they profile. Hello, if a dog bites you look for dogs not cats. lol
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Old 02-15-2010, 01:07 PM
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I don't believe she is acting like she doesn't know the context of why there is a demand. What I would like is an investigation into what could have been done to prevent that same type of attack?

My questions would be - If a plane, full of Americans, is off course, do you bring the whole plane down? Considering where the plane is off course, would that make matters better or worse? What could have been done in this situation with all planes involved?
But that's not what Palin was asked, nor what the people she was providing an answer are wanting.

We're not going to agree on this. I see a clear double standard while you want to excuse Palin for her answer but not Medina.

Medina answered in basically the same way.
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But that's not what Palin was asked, nor what the people she was providing an answer are wanting.

We're not going to agree on this. I see a clear double standard while you want to excuse Palin for her answer but not Medina.

Medina answered in basically the same way.
I saw that Median was pointedly asked, "Do you believe the government was any way involved with the bringing down of the World Trade Centers on 9/11?"

Palin, clearly, does not know the questioner or his motives. When she says, "get to the point of never again", that gives me the impression that she is wanting to avoid this, as in, security issues. The questioner did not ask, "Sarah, do you believe that the government was any way involved with the bringing down of the World Trade Centers on 9/11?"
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And this is funny! When Kinky first put in his hat for the Governor's race, they asked him why he thought he could win. He said, "Because I have absolutely no experience!"

He's still hanging around.
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Palin, clearly, does not know the questioner or his motives. When she says, "get to the point of never again", that gives me the impression that she is wanting to avoid this, as in, security issues. The questioner did not ask, "Sarah, do you believe that the government was any way involved with the bringing down of the World Trade Centers on 9/11?"
This was during the McCain campaign ... she should've known or had her people find out who the group was.

Funny thing, Palin claims to read "all of 'em," newspapers, yet must have missed all the news about these folks wanting more investigations, etc. I read this, for crying out loud and you're telling me that a possible VP of the US didn't know this?

Ignorance is no excuse ... but clearly it's been Palin's m.o.
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