Great Christian Leaders

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by OGIA

Will any but Christians be in heaven, Ferd?

Since you didn't answer, I'll go ahead. "No" is the answer. So, if the men you mentioned did not obey the Gospel, first and foremost, then they will not be in heaven. So, can't we logically say that they were not Christian to begin with? Or, were they Chrisitian until the end, but never made it in because they didn't have truth?


I disagree. The Apostolic Church never was a part of "them". It did not come out of them, nor did it gain its understanding from them. Do they contribute to some understanding through commentaries and such? Sure, but my theology did not come from any of the men you mentioned.



It's not a copout. God will use whatever vessel He chooses, donkey or protestant.

two points. I dont really care if they are saved or not, as they have been dead low these last two hundred years. to even bring that up is pointless.

however, you are vastly wrong in your assumption that the Apostolic Church never was "a part of them" even worse is your acertian that the Apostolic church didnt come out of them.

In fact, the Pentecost movement (as a mater of historical record) had its genesis in the Methodest church. MANY of the early Penticostal Pioneers were methodist. Before the HG revival, many methodists had the Holy Ghost (including my great grandmother and her parents).

Apostolic theology is a branch off the Weslyan/Armenian tree my friend. you dont have to agree with me. You dont even have to like it, but this is simple fact.

Holiness and scantification and our understanding of Gods grace being exteneded to all mankind come directly from these 2 men. sorry bub.

[Scott Hutchinson]

That Elder that used to be over The ALJC ,Bishop Don Johnson He seemed like a great leader to me.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

Yes.

She and her husband, later deceased, pastored the very large Latter Rain church in Detroit.

I had heard of her and the church many times. It was a healing and revival center. Once in conversation with Arlen (Buddy) Guidroz of Dallas, he spoke of that Church. It seems that when he was a young man, he and his Father, the legendary V.A. Guidroz, Dora's grandfather attended a service or two there...if I rightly recall the conversation.

He related how that there was so much fasting and praying in that church that it never closed, the tabernacle was always jammed packed with people. There were all sorts of physical aids nailed to the walls such as wheel chairs, crutches, leg braces and many other contraptions as well as a witness of the miracle power of God.

He further related how that since the breath gives off a bad odor from fasting that, there was so much fasting that it got into the walls. The church had to shut down from time to time for the purpose of sanitizing the walls to cleanse all the bad ordor from bad breath.

It was truly a great, miracle, faith based revival church. Many Latter Rain churches came and leaders came out of that church though that church was not the beginning of that movement.

The Latter Rain movement began in Sasketchiwan Canada at a praying and fasting Bible School. The likes of George Hawtin, a very prolific author of many (approx 35) books, and a few other men were the genesis of that movement from out of that school. I have all books written by Geo. Hawtin. However, I would not reccommend those books to a novice, though they are probably out of print.

I met his brother Ern Hawtin. I thought it was a Latter Rain church