Rewriting Worldly Songs?

[Narrow Is The Way]

Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams

Really? Because it came from God. I was praying and fasting and asking God if I should stop playing this style of music, and He immediately showed me a vision of David taking Goliath's sword from his sheath and beheading him with it. I was very much in the Spirit and the message was absolutely clear. USE THE DEVIL"S OWN WEAPON AGAINST HIM!


You're really not scared? Or are you just bluffing as usual?


No, David didn't use an idol of Dagon to beat Goliath over the head with it, nor did he use one of the Philistines profane pig sacrifices, just the sword.


Like putting Christian lyrics to old Pagan Celtic folk tunes? Because that's how just about all the "ol time hymns" were written



I guess I'll shove the publican out of the way and ask the Pharisee in the Temple about how to do that.



Okay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alm45RFdkfc

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you mean like the one in this video, or is it worldly because it has its roots in the old plantation black slave music style, rather than the Celtic folk music of white Pagans?



What berkeley said.

Exactly. You have just made my point. Quit trying to beat the devil over the head while using the worlds idols and their songs as your so-called weapon. He isn't afraid. He's laughing at you.

[Narrow Is The Way]

Originally Posted by Arphaxad

These are old songs , not everyone has been in church their whole life.

Oh i see. It's only ok if it is a song you use to listen to.

[Cindy]

Lady Gag, I mean GaGa used the word Jesus in one of her songs. I guess that means it's a christian song.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Cindy

Lady Gag, I mean GaGa used the word Jesus in one of her songs. I guess that means it's a christian song.

It is ironic that the word "lady" is used in conjunction with "Gaga". "Madam" may be more appropriate, or perhaps "Mistress", but NOT "lady".

[Arphaxad]

Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way

Oh i see. It's only ok if it is a song you use to listen to.

haha, you see nothing. You make a claim that anyone that knows these types of songs must still be listening to them. I said they are old songs and not everyone has been in church their whole life, meaning that people listened to these songs before they were saved. I used to listen to way more evil music than these, and unfortunantly can still remember every lyric and note and melody, that happens when you lived that lifestyle and heard that kind of stuff thousands and thousands of times and didn't get saved until late in life(40 when I was). I don't listen to that stuff anymore and through out all my old cd's and records and stuff, but sometimes some of those old songs will pop into my head.
anyways if he's bringing Christ to people with that method who am I to say it's wrong. Didn't Paul say something about as long as Christ is preached we should rejoice?
But really, I think you should loosen your tie, you're depriving your brain of oxygen.

[Ev. Duane Williams]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

This is an example of everything that's wrong with pentecostal doctrine as a whole. Anytime someones preference contradicts the Word of God they claim God told them/showed them/revealed to them....

I have serious doubts that your position came from the same God who in His Holy Word spoke of seperation from the world, warned of friendship with the world, strage fire,etc.

But we should accept your views basically because "God told me."

That is how cults start.

I don't have any doubts that God answered my question with this analogy. The entire Bible was written by men who said "God told me."

Almost all of your ol' time hymns are lyrics set to tunes originating from Celtic pagan folk music, so even they originated as "worldly" songs. If your position on this were to be true, we should scrap all of our worship songs that aren't set in the ancient Israelites' harmonic minor chords, scales, and progressions. Our music would sound very exotic(I love that scale), and my guess is those of your persuasion would insist it's "of the debbil!" Get back to the Old Paths, as in Druid sun-worshipping scales and chords like most old hymns are set to, right?

[Ev. Duane Williams]

Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way

Exactly. You have just made my point. Quit trying to beat the devil over the head while using the worlds idols and their songs as your so-called weapon. He isn't afraid. He's laughing at you.

You seem to know a lot about the Devil. Do you have him on speed dial so you can ask him if he's afraid or if he laughing?

[Arphaxad]

Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams

I don't have any doubts that God answered my question with this analogy. The entire Bible was written by men who said "God told me."

Almost all of your ol' time hymns are lyrics set to tunes originating from Celtic pagan folk music, so even they originated as "worldly" songs. If your position on this were to be true, we should scrap all of our worship songs that aren't set in the ancient Israelites' harmonic minor chords, scales, and progressions. Our music would sound very exotic(I love that scale), and my guess is those of your persuasion would insist it's "of the debbil!" Get back to the Old Paths, as in Druid sun-worshipping scales and chords like most old hymns are set to, right?

I think that at one time there were certain scales or chords that were considered "of the devil" that composers were forbidden to use.
Than came guys like Paganini that were obviously "demon possessed".haha

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

It is ironic that the word "lady" is used in conjunction with "Gaga". "Madam" may be more appropriate, or perhaps "Mistress", but NOT "lady".

Exactly, and that is why I use the term "Gag" instead of "Gaga". UGH But, she needs Jesus.

[Jason B]

"The church does most for the world when it is least like the world."~G. Campbell Morgan

"Today, many churches have the idea they must imitate the world in order to reach the world. And they are wrong!"~Warren Wiesrbe

"The contextulization of the gospel today has infected the church with the spirit of the age. It has opened the church's doors wide open for worldiness, shallowness, and in some cases a crass, party atmosphere. The world now sets the agenda for the church. Those who want to replace preaching with drama, music, and subtler means would do well to consider this: God PURPOSEFULLY chose a message and methodology which the world's wisdom counts as foolishness."
~John MacArthur

"The fact is many would like to unite the church and stage."~Charles Spurgeon

But perhaps my sentiments are best expressed in this thought:
"No signs can be more alarming than the growing infidelity and worldliness which I see among those who call themselves Christians."~Charles Spurgeon


WHAT A BUNCH OF PHARISEES. These guys would never survive on AFF.