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05-24-2007, 10:52 PM
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Mark 16:17-18
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18.They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
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Are you tempting God when you pray for a diabetic who eats candy bars? Are you tempting God when you pray for a smoker dying of lung cancer?
Are you taking the Lord's name in vain? Are you not perputrating evil when you pray for them? Maybe it's time to go back to the drawing board.
You made a good effort, the best one I've seen so far. Good job.
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Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
They call his name in vain when they ask protection while perpetrating the evil they claim to seek protection from.
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05-24-2007, 10:53 PM
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Uh, I don't recall saying there was such a scripture.
The entire passage is quite possibly literal. I remember Paul shaking a snake in the fire.
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05-24-2007, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Uh, I don't recall saying there was such a scripture.
The entire passage is quite possibly literal. I remember Paul shaking a snake in the fire.[/
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05-24-2007, 11:06 PM
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Mark 16:17-18
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18.They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
KJV
Are you tempting God when you pray for a diabetic who eats candy bars? Are you tempting God when you pray for a smoker dying of lung cancer?
Are you taking the Lord's name in vain? Are you not perputrating evil when you pray for them? Maybe it's time to go back to the drawing board.
You made a good effort, the best one I've seen so far. Good job.
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Yes, if someone is praying blessings on or protection from cigarettes while smoking them - the same applies - it is not of faith and is sin to use the name of the Lord in such fashion.
The candy bar scenario is a stretch... unless it was a Resees Peanut Butter Cup - in which case God may sypathize with you.....
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05-24-2007, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Uh, I don't recall saying there was such a scripture.
The entire passage is quite possibly literal. I remember Paul shaking a snake in the fire.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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05-25-2007, 05:48 AM
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Maybe the taking up serpents meant having to pastor people who wanted tv, who wanted their women to have cut hair, make-up, wear britches etc, wanted their men to have beards, mustaches, shortsleeves, etc wanted their daughters to be on the dance team, and the cheerleaders, and the ballot, and wanted their sons to play little league, then high school, then college, then hopefully pro sports
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05-25-2007, 05:49 AM
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Maybe the taking up serpents meant having to pastor people who wanted tv, who wanted their women to have cut hair, make-up, wear britches etc, wanted their men to have beards, mustaches, shortsleeves, etc wanted their daughters to be on the dance team, and the cheerleaders, and the ballot, and wanted their sons to play little league, then high school, then college, then hopefully pro sports
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05-25-2007, 06:37 AM
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05-25-2007, 06:46 AM
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It is apparent to me that ALL in this photo are about to renounce this cultic practice. 
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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05-25-2007, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by AGAPE
Maybe the taking up serpents meant having to pastor people who wanted tv, who wanted their women to have cut hair, make-up, wear britches etc, wanted their men to have beards, mustaches, shortsleeves, etc wanted their daughters to be on the dance team, and the cheerleaders, and the ballot, and wanted their sons to play little league, then high school, then college, then hopefully pro sports
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It is interesting how you guys who don't ever want to allow for cultural relativism in considering scripture but want to apply every solution the Apostles had for issues of their day to every age but yet for this scripture you suddenly are proposing it is an allegory. I think it is pretty clear it is not.
I think the best explanation is that it meant if people accidently eat poison or pick up a snake. However the snake handlers, like many Pentecostals, have chosen to take it as the literal meaning of the actual words with no context to place it in.
I think the idea that it was speaking of people inadverdently eating poison or picking up a snake is buttresed by the fact that eating poison and handling snakes was not a practice of the early church recorded anywhere in the Epistles.
We don't have Paul writing to "therefore be swift in thy holding of thine snake and keepest its head away from thine body..." or some such thing as he teaches the church.
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