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Old 07-27-2012, 04:59 PM
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Re: Light Shows In Churches

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Thanks Bro Mike. We absolutely must be fervent in our praise and worship. Jesus DIED for me so that I could have life and life more abundantly.

Only the devil would attempt to put a choke hold on someone's praise.

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I deleted a comment because it was inappropriate. If any saw it, please forgive me.
nobody said you can't jump, yell or dance. But you did say its inappropriate to have colored lights in church.

I'm not the one trying to limit what goes on in service
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Old 07-27-2012, 05:05 PM
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nobody said you can't jump, yell or dance. But you did say its inappropriate to have colored lights in church.

I'm not the one trying to limit what goes on in service
Your position, to me, based on what you have said and what I've seen, is that you personally are against the jumping and shouting. My above comment to Mike was directly about the way in which we praise. The comment had nothing to do with light shows.

Light shows have absolutely no room in the church.

Feel free to disagree and go have your light show .
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Old 07-27-2012, 05:13 PM
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Your position, to me, based on what you have said and what I've seen, is that you personally are against the jumping and shouting. My above comment to Mike was directly about the way in which we praise. The comment had nothing to do with light shows.

Light shows have absolutely no room in the church.

Feel free to disagree and go have your light show .
you seemed to have already told me once so far I said something/believe something I didnt say.

Why don't light shows have absolutely no room in church?
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:46 AM
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Re: Light Shows In Churches

So many people have developed a problem with Pentecostal praise and worship. They say that it does not take all of that to praise God. I say to people all of the time that my desire to praise God in an emotional way is in relation to what He has done for me. I see it as awesome in His work in my life. He has done so very much for me. And if someone wants to be quiet in their praise, that is their decision. But, as for me, what He has done for me is so awesome that I cannot be quiet. It is birthed out of a man delivered from lies, deception, abuse, and pain, and brought to the marvelous light of truth, faith, restoration, renewal, revival, and hope in Christ.
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:23 AM
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Re: Light Shows In Churches

I am a worshipper first and foremost. I was raised in Pentecost, and have never had any part of the "world" all my life. But there has always been a heart of worship within me, and I loved to worship the Lord with all my heart with praise, worship and dance.

I believe that if you are worshiping the Lord with all of your heart, you will not care about what others may think of you, because there is such a deep desire in your heart to worship your King.

I can recognize though, when people worship as a fleshly thing and to get attention. It is quite obvious. There is a lot of that which goes on too. But there is true heartfelt worship that will make your body light as a feather. I have worshiped the Lord at times when I felt I had no energy in my body to even move, and before I knew it the spirit of the Lord was upon me, and I was moving in worship to him in ways that my body wouldn't let me do before.

There is a true worship that is accompanied with a dance, but I have observed many times people just moving because of the beat, and as soon as the beat stopped, their worship stopped. As soon as the song stopped, their worship was over.

To be honest, some of the best times I have ever had with the Lord, have been with tears running down my face as I danced unto Him. I have never had a real, true genuine, life changing experience with the Lord Jesus that didn't involve tears, and it also almost always was accompanied by a time at the altar of repentance, and soul searching, before I could worship Him in that way.

Those times are life changing moments for me... when I left the place of worship, I was changed, from the inside out.

The beat, the lights, the emotional workup, the hype, the screaming... all that does nothing for me. But if there is a time and a place for heartfelt soul searching, and a genuine crying out for the Lord, and then worship comes, perhaps in the form of dancing, those are the times that you will see the glory of God revealed in your life, and you will walk out the doors of that place, and be changed.

Emotionalism, hype, lights, music, excitement, screaming, wild emotions.... do nothing to change the soul, but will leave you empty.

Give me a place where there is true genuine repentant hearts and spirits, crying out in worship to their King, and there you will find lives being changed from the inside out, with lasting effects, and all praise and glory due to Jesus.
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:24 PM
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I am a worshipper first and foremost. I was raised in Pentecost, and have never had any part of the "world" all my life. But there has always been a heart of worship within me, and I loved to worship the Lord with all my heart with praise, worship and dance.

I believe that if you are worshiping the Lord with all of your heart, you will not care about what others may think of you, because there is such a deep desire in your heart to worship your King.

I can recognize though, when people worship as a fleshly thing and to get attention. It is quite obvious. There is a lot of that which goes on too. But there is true heartfelt worship that will make your body light as a feather. I have worshiped the Lord at times when I felt I had no energy in my body to even move, and before I knew it the spirit of the Lord was upon me, and I was moving in worship to him in ways that my body wouldn't let me do before.

There is a true worship that is accompanied with a dance, but I have observed many times people just moving because of the beat, and as soon as the beat stopped, their worship stopped. As soon as the song stopped, their worship was over.

To be honest, some of the best times I have ever had with the Lord, have been with tears running down my face as I danced unto Him. I have never had a real, true genuine, life changing experience with the Lord Jesus that didn't involve tears, and it also almost always was accompanied by a time at the altar of repentance, and soul searching, before I could worship Him in that way.

Those times are life changing moments for me... when I left the place of worship, I was changed, from the inside out.

The beat, the lights, the emotional workup, the hype, the screaming... all that does nothing for me. But if there is a time and a place for heartfelt soul searching, and a genuine crying out for the Lord, and then worship comes, perhaps in the form of dancing, those are the times that you will see the glory of God revealed in your life, and you will walk out the doors of that place, and be changed.

Emotionalism, hype, lights, music, excitement, screaming, wild emotions.... do nothing to change the soul, but will leave you empty.

Give me a place where there is true genuine repentant hearts and spirits, crying out in worship to their King, and there you will find lives being changed from the inside out, with lasting effects, and all praise and glory due to Jesus.
Amen!
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:51 AM
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Wonderful testimonies here.

I suppose that God can save in any place, even while a bunch of strobe lights are whirling around and around.
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