The moment you say "black "man, race has now entered in!
Sigh. One can discuss race, recognize historical racial significance, and not be controlled by it. I see it in the real world all the time.
Powell was always left of the GOP on social issues and that has always been known. As a military man when he strongly, and I believe rightfully, opposed the global policies of the GOP, there was no where else to go. His resignation speaks so loudly and clearly that you would have to be deaf or blind to not recognize it. IMO. I didn't see him as endorsing anyone who would continue the policies that he so strongly opposed. You factor in the fact that he personally disagrees with the base on most social issues and it all adds up.
If you tell me Clarence Thomas has endorsed President Obama and he has no real compelling explanation for such a dramatic reversal, I'll buy that race is the likely reason.
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I'm not sure if this is the documentary... but it includes interviews with actual CIA and intelligence officials who guit under the Bush Administration because they felt the information was being trumped up to the American people to justify war.
While the world suspected Saddam of developing WMDs... there wasn't a single nation that could make the case that Saddam actually had them. The Bush Administration trumped up falsified data and sold it to the international community to garner support for the invasion of Iraq. Colin Powell was used as a tool and he knows it. That's why Powell refuses to support those neocon warmongers.
I think it's trite to say CP endorses Obama because of race. I got emotional watching Obama give his acceptance speech in front of that big crowd in Chicago in 2008...because I knew the next four years were going to be disastrous, given his platform for getting elected...(just kidding) I got emotional because I understood the historical significance of that moment. I felt the same emotion when he was inaugurated.
Cmon guys, offer something more substantial than the dismissive "it's because he's black". I agree with Stew, you can't have it both ways to say you're offended when someone accuses you of racism because you don't support Obama. There are many reasonable reasons to disagree with Obama and to disagree with CP's endorsement.
And his endorsement won't matter. 99% of America has made up their mind. The 1% that hasn't is still trying to decide if New Coke or Coke Classic is better.
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I think it's trite to say CP endorses Obama because of race. I got emotional watching Obama give his acceptance speech in front of that big crowd in Chicago in 2008...because I knew the next four years were going to be disastrous, given his platform for getting elected...(just kidding) I got emotional because I understood the historical significance of that moment. I felt the same emotion when he was inaugurated.
Cmon guys, offer something more substantial than the dismissive "it's because he's black". I agree with Stew, you can't have it both ways to say you're offended when someone accuses you of racism because you don't support Obama. There are many reasonable reasons to disagree with Obama and to disagree with CP's endorsement.
And his endorsement won't matter. 99% of America has made up their mind. The 1% that hasn't is still trying to decide if New Coke or Coke Classic is better.
I concur wholeheartedly.
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There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chuck Norris lives in Houston.
Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
If CP left the Bush admin over anger about how things went down in Iraq, and yet supports Obama despite the fact that Obama has followed through on most of Bush's foreign policy decisions, played dumb when our embassies were under attack and has done nothing while China actively cyber attacks our networks (even hacking the FBI directors computer) then there must be another reason why he is doing so.
It may not be the fact that they share being black, but to say that couldn't be it would be foolish. CP may have hated Bush's Iraqi build up and execution, but he should be more upset with Obama's "let's pack up and get out of these places whether their own militaries are ready or not" mentality means he will be creating a region ripe for Jihadist picking. He already let Egypt fall into the hands of the Muslim brotherhood. He already allows Pakistan's new regime to thumb it's nose at us and hold hands with dangerous evil people.
If CP has less problem with those things than he did with GWB's removal of Saddam then CP is sadly an idiot instead of a man who disagrees with GWB on an Iraq decision.
If CP left the Bush admin over anger about how things went down in Iraq, and yet supports Obama despite the fact that Obama has followed through on most of Bush's foreign policy decisions, played dumb when our embassies were under attack and has done nothing while China actively cyber attacks our networks (even hacking the FBI directors computer) then there must be another reason why he is doing so.
It may not be the fact that they share being black, but to say that couldn't be it would be foolish. CP may have hated Bush's Iraqi build up and execution, but he should be more upset with Obama's "let's pack up and get out of these places whether their own militaries are ready or not" mentality means he will be creating a region ripe for Jihadist picking. He already let Egypt fall into the hands of the Muslim brotherhood. He already allows Pakistan's new regime to thumb it's nose at us and hold hands with dangerous evil people.
If CP has less problem with those things than he did with GWB's removal of Saddam then CP is sadly an idiot instead of a man who disagrees with GWB on an Iraq decision.
I have respect for a man who takes his decision to direct men and women into battle and death solemnly. One major area of foreign policy that both Powell and Obama seem to share is the belief that we should not have been committing the lifes and money we did in Iraq. That is an area that he has seen Obama act on, and if you read his statement that is one thing that he specifically mentioned. In this very critical area, he has not continued the Bush policy.
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There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chuck Norris lives in Houston.
Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
If CP left the Bush admin over anger about how things went down in Iraq, and yet supports Obama despite the fact that Obama has followed through on most of Bush's foreign policy decisions, played dumb when our embassies were under attack and has done nothing while China actively cyber attacks our networks (even hacking the FBI directors computer) then there must be another reason why he is doing so.
It may not be the fact that they share being black, but to say that couldn't be it would be foolish. CP may have hated Bush's Iraqi build up and execution, but he should be more upset with Obama's "let's pack up and get out of these places whether their own militaries are ready or not" mentality means he will be creating a region ripe for Jihadist picking. He already let Egypt fall into the hands of the Muslim brotherhood. He already allows Pakistan's new regime to thumb it's nose at us and hold hands with dangerous evil people.
If CP has less problem with those things than he did with GWB's removal of Saddam then CP is sadly an idiot instead of a man who disagrees with GWB on an Iraq decision.
The ends does not always justify the means.
The Iraq War is proof positive of this old saying.
Also, one Republican is saying that Obama followed through with Bush's foreign policy plan while the other Republican is criticizing Obama for his foreign policy decisions.
Sigh.
The truth is that Obama followed the will of the American people. By virtue of his election, he had to attempt to wind down our presence in Iraw because that is what America expected him to do.
He has continued our presence in Afghanistan until 2014 and I have read countless of my fellow Republicans calling for us to pull out sooner, while others are saying we should not pull out at all until the job is complete.
Sigh.
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Last edited by Jermyn Davidson; 10-26-2012 at 11:55 AM.
If Obama came out in favor of Oxygen... Republicans would soffocate themselves. lol
We would choose a carbon footprint over oxygen because we want dirty water, dirty air and we only want to see the top 1% succeed...
What's funny is you act as if only GOP voters vote in lock step...
Were you asleep during the Bush years? If Bush farted, it was because he was trying to steal oil from the Iraqis. If Cheney sneezed it was because he was trying to get Halliburton another no bid contract. If Rumsfeld belched it was a conspiracy to take away our civil liberties.
Most of us oppose Obama for very logical ideological reasons. I happen to like him on a personal level. I admire his marriage and his parenting. I think his story of being the mixed race son of a single white woman and an absentee Kenyan father and rising to the level of POTUS is nothing short of intriguing. I just happen to disagree with just about every policy decision he's made. Only twice hacpve I agreed with him: I agreed with the content of his speech accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in which he basically said that Europe would not be free without the war waged by Americans against Nazism and his decision to take out Bin Laden.
Your dismissive insults of those of us who disagree with your take on history and those of us who are opposed to Obama's presidency on ideological grounds is evidence of a lack of substance on your part, not ours.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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