Why did we lock down to begin with?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Jito463

I didn't say "anyone and everyone", you're once again twisting my words. Obviously, a guy who dies in a car accident with C19, isn't going to be reported as a C19 death. But what about someone who's dying from cancer and gets C19? How do you think they're going to report that death? Death from cancer, or death from C19?

What about the drug overdose reported as COVID19?

The CDC guidelines for coding essentially encourages massive fraud. There is $$$$ in coding COVID19 deaths, $$$$ in sticking people on ventilators, $$$$ in claiming someone is "positive".

Speaking of which, the tests literally mean NOTHING. We've got goats and paw-paw fruits testing positive. 80% false negative rates. The inventor of the PCR was telling everyone for YEARS that it CANNOT DIAGNOSE INFECTION. Antibody positive tests results always meant you HAD it and beat it - until AIDS, Fauci, and Birx came along. Then science was jettisoned for $$$$ and now antibody positive means you are infected and a threat.

Total clown world, gene and brain damaging vaccine shots and GMO food poisoning have eradicated people's ability to think. Forget about critical thinking.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by jfrog

No you can't

Well, then I guess I'll quote your own words back at you and we'll leave it at that.

Originally Posted by jfrog

But it's not like I'm trying to convince you as you are so far ingrained that no evidence would suffice. Instead I'm listing this for the more unbiased readers out there.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Esaias

There is $$$$ in coding COVID19 deaths, $$$$ in sticking people on ventilators, $$$$ in claiming someone is "positive".

And therein lies a core reason I don't accept the "guesses" that we're under reporting. And not only is there money in it, but for would-be despots, there's power as well.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Jito463

Well, then I guess I'll quote your own words back at you and we'll leave it at that.

Nice deflection. I gave you a chance to support your claim and all you do is deflect. Nice try.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Nice deflection. I gave you a chance to support your claim and all you do is deflect. Nice try.

You didn't request any information, you just shut down conversation with an absolute statement.

Originally Posted by jfrog

No you can't

You just can't stop twisting and manipulating the conversation to make yourself seem like the morally superior person, can you?

You can post again and have the last word if you wish, but I think it's time this conversation dies. It's going nowhere fast.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Jito463

You didn't request any information, you just shut down conversation with an absolute statement.



You just can't stop twisting and manipulating the conversation to make yourself seem like the morally superior person, can you?

You can post again and have the last word if you wish, but I think it's time this conversation dies. It's going nowhere fast.

You say: "Not only can I link to facts like the CDC's own website, which shows their guidelines open the door for massive over reporting"

I challenge you on that. Instead of providing the evidence you shut down the conversation.

Typical behavior of someone that can't back up their claims.

[jfrog]

Just an update on Wisconsin stats - still higher cases but still no more deaths.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Also of particular note from those articles:



Debunks the claim that anyone and everyone that dies having tested positive is being included in the death count.

But that would require one of those wait for up to six weeks toxicology autopsy reports.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

But that would require one of those wait for up to six weeks toxicology autopsy reports.

No idea what you are going on about.

[james34]

Here is a little more reason the media is referred to as Fake news,
https://www.foxnews.com/media/chuck-...arr-flynn-edit