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Old 08-20-2007, 11:13 PM
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I don't THINK you were wrong in what you were trying to convey. I THINK it was conveyed in a mannor that can be misinterpreted by others.
Gotcha.

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Old 08-20-2007, 11:14 PM
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Human nature has natures (attributes, characteristics, makes no difference what word is used), but I'm still just one person.

God can have several natures (attributes, characteristics, makes no difference what word is used), but He's still just one God.
No, human nature are those charactoristics that makes someone human.
God has one Divine nature.
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and I posted the one that most theologians are using when they are dialoging on theology :-)
I'm no theologian......LOL!

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Old 08-20-2007, 11:15 PM
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I'm no theologian......LOL!

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No, human nature are those charactoristics that makes someone human.
God has one Divine nature.
And what makes that nature Divine? Aren't there characteristics, attributes, or natures that make up his Divine nature?
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:17 PM
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And what makes that nature Divine? Aren't there characteristics, attributes, or natures that make up his Divine nature?
Natures that make up nature?
No there are charactoristics (plural) that are His Divine Nature (singular)
Again "nature" means "those charactoristics, qualities or attributes that makes someone or something whatever they are"
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Natures that make up nature?
No there are charactoristics (plural) that are His Divine Nature (singular)
Again "nature" means "those charactoristics, qualities or attributes that makes someone or something whatever they are"
Just as man has a evil nature, God has Divine nature. This goes with the 11th definition that I posted. You are sticking with #8 only.

I believe God can be defined under both definitions.
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:39 PM
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Just as man has a evil nature, God has Divine nature. This goes with the 11th definition that I posted. You are sticking with #8 only.

I believe God can be defined under both definitions.
We are discussing THEOLOGY.

Wouldn't it be nice, when you said "God" the person you are talking to understood that you meant the creator in the bible and not the force from Star Wars? If we willy nilly pick whatever definition we want and disregard how the word is used normally in a theo (God)logical (study) context then it's pointless to even be here. This is why I keep explaining and rewording and defining things consistently the same over and over....

when you run into a Trinitarian who wants to discuss with you God and you keep using nature the way you want to and not the way most theologians or scholars do, then you are going to just miscommunicate with that person.

This is how these words are used in this sort of discussion. This is how they use them in Academia. It's really helpful when we can all understand what the other person is saying.
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