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Old 10-04-2007, 10:05 AM
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I STILL SAY

Its a sad story....sad as...Benny Hinn smoking Heroine, Paul Crouch in sex scandal, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Baker, Tammy Faye, Oral Roberts scandal, Without Walls Divorce, Jan Broke a nail, W V Grant wears a miracle ear piece, Peter Popoff is a "Miracle spring water "doorknob, Robert Tilton Farts too much....

Its called SIN...it hits all sides.....
but were all those folks reacting to their freedom from being a part of something so strict is was almost Amish?
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:11 AM
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yes, but the Catholic church doesn't actively preach against all other denominations... haven't since Vatican 2 (50 years or so)...

If you don't like the rules they have, go to a baptist church or a lutheran church and they are still ok with you...

if you go to a baptist church from a Pentecostal church, the Pentecostal church considers you backslidden and hellbound....

oh... and not only are those rules not nearly as invasive as the rules that we have... but most Catholic churches don't even think about actually preaching most of that...
Ah I see the mighty RCC is doing a good job with the snow job.

As a former catholic with a still very devout RC father, I can tell you that they have you fooled.

The catholic church just recently publically stated that anyone that does not embrace "her" (the RCC) will be eternally damned. I wish I could find the article for you.

Make no mistake about "her" silence in the pulpit. She has an agenda and the rules have not changed much. The plan is to make everyone comfortable and cozy and then drop the bombshells.

I only named a few of "her" rules.

When you become catholic, you become a possession of the church. When you leave, you are a heretic, a black sheep...which is what I am called by my own father. According to my father and his priest, I will be damned forever unless I return to the RCC.

Now tell me again...what was that about invasive rules? What was that about considering people hellbound?
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:14 AM
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I STILL SAY

Its a sad story....sad as...Benny Hinn smoking Heroine, Paul Crouch in sex scandal, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Baker, Tammy Faye, Oral Roberts scandal, Without Walls Divorce, Jan Broke a nail, W V Grant wears a miracle ear piece, Peter Popoff is a "Miracle spring water "doorknob, Robert Tilton Farts too much....

Its called SIN...it hits all sides.....

LOL!!!! Yup. Our fallen nature is something all battle. Human failure knows no stripe of religious persuasion.

Which is one more reason I know that a laundry list of corporate legalism trying to enforce cookie cutter "speratism" is not the answer.

Just as many conservative Pentecostal preachers who would not dream of wearing a short sleeve church or watching a TV fall into adultery as those who live a less legalistic lifestyle.

The truth is that all fail when their relationship with God falters, usually something that happens in private long before the resulting sin becomes public.

The big time preachers are usually undone by their own success and "stardom" while many whose names are never known outside their hometowns stumble and fall for other reasons.
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:23 AM
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redeemedcynic,

Heres some info you may find interesting...

I am copying and pasting only a portion and then including the link for more info. Notice the question asked is actually at the bottom.

Obedience to Rome's Rules is Essential to Salvation

If you don't believe this, ask any Catholic what will happen to them if they deliberately miss mass on a Sunday or 'holy day of obligation.' Ask them what will happen to them if they challenge the Pope's authority, or if they deliberately eat meat during times it is forbidden, or if they refuse to fast the required length of time before taking communion. Ask any Catholic where they will end up if they practice birth control, or get divorced and remarried! These and a host of other 'no-no's' automatically consign you to a place in Hell according to the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. In brief, the Roman Catholic person has a lengthy checklist of church rules to obey-or else!

QUESTION: Does the Bible condemn to hell anyone who fails to attend church, go to the sacrament of penance (sic., confession), eat Jesus in the Eucharist, or who eats meat on Fridays, uses birth control or gets divorced and remarried?


http://www.angelfire.com/ma/romewatch/page3.html
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:31 AM
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Unfortunately, when these boys crash (and they will!) their new-found life paradigm will be revealed for what it is, a facade! One day these boys will bow and confess that Jesus is Lord!
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:37 AM
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Unfortunately, when these boys crash (and they will!) their new-found life paradigm will be revealed for what it is, a facade! One day these boys will bow and confess that Jesus is Lord!
Yes they will ... I pray they are able to do this in this life.
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:47 PM
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Ah I see the mighty RCC is doing a good job with the snow job.

As a former catholic with a still very devout RC father, I can tell you that they have you fooled.

The catholic church just recently publically stated that anyone that does not embrace "her" (the RCC) will be eternally damned. I wish I could find the article for you.

Make no mistake about "her" silence in the pulpit. She has an agenda and the rules have not changed much. The plan is to make everyone comfortable and cozy and then drop the bombshells.

I only named a few of "her" rules.

When you become catholic, you become a possession of the church. When you leave, you are a heretic, a black sheep...which is what I am called by my own father. According to my father and his priest, I will be damned forever unless I return to the RCC.

Now tell me again...what was that about invasive rules? What was that about considering people hellbound?
Do I really need to go and find the exact passages in the Catechism that says that not only are other Chrisitan groups going to make it to heaven, but Muslims will, as well???

Because they are there, I've seen them, and they are real...

And I know the Catholic church said that stuff, they're just a bastion disagreeing with themselves... But that doesn't change that they do say that everyone else is going to heaven, too!!
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:48 PM
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redeemedcynic,

Heres some info you may find interesting...

I am copying and pasting only a portion and then including the link for more info. Notice the question asked is actually at the bottom.

Obedience to Rome's Rules is Essential to Salvation

If you don't believe this, ask any Catholic what will happen to them if they deliberately miss mass on a Sunday or 'holy day of obligation.' Ask them what will happen to them if they challenge the Pope's authority, or if they deliberately eat meat during times it is forbidden, or if they refuse to fast the required length of time before taking communion. Ask any Catholic where they will end up if they practice birth control, or get divorced and remarried! These and a host of other 'no-no's' automatically consign you to a place in Hell according to the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. In brief, the Roman Catholic person has a lengthy checklist of church rules to obey-or else!

QUESTION: Does the Bible condemn to hell anyone who fails to attend church, go to the sacrament of penance (sic., confession), eat Jesus in the Eucharist, or who eats meat on Fridays, uses birth control or gets divorced and remarried?


http://www.angelfire.com/ma/romewatch/page3.html
RCC's catechism >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an angelfire website set up by some random person somewhere on earth....
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:52 PM
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Do I really need to go and find the exact passages in the Catechism that says that not only are other Chrisitan groups going to make it to heaven, but Muslims will, as well???

Because they are there, I've seen them, and they are real...

And I know the Catholic church said that stuff, they're just a bastion disagreeing with themselves... But that doesn't change that they do say that everyone else is going to heaven, too!!
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Old 10-04-2007, 01:05 PM
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Backsliders always blame the church, their pastor, saints, circumstances, etc.

Rarely do they blame themselves. And when on rare occasions they do put the blame where it belongs, they generally pray through.
Truer words have seldom if ever been spoken..

I can testify that when I accepted responsibility for my sin and sought the solace of my savior, i prayed through! It has now been 8.5 years and my relationship with Jesus has never been more dear!
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