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02-06-2014, 08:38 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
Actually, you need to go back to the nursery. It is amazing to see that a man who makes his living preaching the Word of God doesn't know the difference between a prophet, a priest and a scribe.
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02-07-2014, 01:34 AM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
2:12 teach or to exercise authority over a man The closest parallel to this instruction appears in 1 Cor 14:3435. The context there is the churchs public gatherings. The teaching role in public settings was traditionally assigned to males in Jewish and Graeco-Roman culture. The practical implications of Pauls statement depend on the interpretive option chosen for this part of Pauls letter (see note on vv. 1115).
This statement can be understood as presenting two prohibitions: A woman cannot teach or exercise authority over a man. If so, Paul presents two independent but related commands. The verse can also be read as a single prohibition (i.e., not to teach) followed by an explanation (i.e., not to exercise authority). This interpretation, based on the syntax and combination of specific Greek verbs, results in I do not permit a woman to teach so as to exercise authority over a man. The essence of Pauls teaching is the same with either option. Pauls main concern was the churchs ability to minister effectively without appearing to disregard cultural traditions, which would alienate the general population.
Barry, J. D., Grigoni, M. R., Heiser, M. S., Custis, M., Mangum, D., & Whitehead, M. M. (2012). Faithlife Study Bible (1 Ti 2:12). Bellingham, WA: Logos Bible Software.
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02-07-2014, 01:44 AM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Actually, you need to go back to the nursery. It is amazing to see that a man who makes his living preaching the Word of God doesn't know the difference between a prophet, a priest and a scribe.
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LOL - Though not technically a "prophet" - Ezra is often referred to as a "prophet" within academia. Here's an very in-depth thesis on Ezra - & he's listed as a "prophet": http://www.ibiblio.org/freebiblecomm...EN/VOL08OT.pdf & Here: http://www.amazon.com/Ezra-Prophet-P.../dp/B004HO5JLA
In fact, Ezra is often compared to the prophet Moses within Judaism: http://www.jewishhistory.org/ezra-and-nehemiah/
Still, the point remains fully in-tact that you will never produce a passage where a woman expounds from Scripture to a congregation of any sort !
Sorry, try again !
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02-06-2014, 10:53 AM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Yes, a fact that seems to continually be ignored because it doesn't fit the theology.
And one more small detail from scripture: there aren't any records of prophets preaching/teaching from the Word of God to a congregation.
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This is the fallacy of arguing from silence.
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02-06-2014, 08:47 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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This is the fallacy of arguing from silence.
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But that is the argument that continues to be presented from the other side of the discussion, with the repeated asking for instances in scripture where women 'expounded from a text of scripture'. Make up your minds, gentlemen, stop trying to have it both ways.
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02-07-2014, 01:47 AM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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But that is the argument that continues to be presented from the other side of the discussion, with the repeated asking for instances in scripture where women 'expounded from a text of scripture'. Make up your minds, gentlemen, stop trying to have it both ways.
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We're simply asking you to corroborate your views with the Scriptures - which we CAN & HAVE done for our doctrinal position in this area (only to be ignored of course !)
Of course, since this is AFF - so we should know better than to ask for Scriptural support of your views !
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02-07-2014, 10:54 AM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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But that is the argument that continues to be presented from the other side of the discussion, with the repeated asking for instances in scripture where women 'expounded from a text of scripture'. Make up your minds, gentlemen, stop trying to have it both ways.
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Seriously??? You don't think the Elders of the church fed the church by preaching from the scriptures??? The Elders were men BTW. The reason the question is asked is because it is known that there are none. That is the point but I think you knew that already.
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02-06-2014, 01:03 AM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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The male is called a prophet and a female is called a prophetess....that is the difference!
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And prophecy has never been - nor will it ever be - a sermon from the Scriptures....& that is the difference !
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02-05-2014, 01:50 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
Sister Mary Willians was probably the smartest woman of her generation...
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02-05-2014, 01:51 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
She and Pop sent out missionaries all over the world...
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