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[Beard]

Jebs brother
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Originally Posted by COOPER View Post
Today that would cult.
Cult? I wonder why someone would display that as a cult?

By saying that, you're saying the disciples were part of a cult and that the Book of Acts Church was also part of a cult.

Everything in God's Word applies to past, present, and future. No one can say that what the Word of God instructs us to do is only for the people back then. No one wants to admit it is for us today because we don't want to give up all the things we possess. It's a hard life but if anyone wants anything REAL and a MOVE of God, they must sell out everything.

Amen Jebs brother....
the cross must be taken up by the believer in order to follow Jesus...

They can try to explain it away, but the Lord said in Luke 12 to "sell that ye have" in order to provide for yourself treasure in the heavens...and yes, it is truly an act of the will, for one must will to do so since it does not automatically happen to a believer...

The same chapter that Jesus instructed his disciples to "sell" that they had is the same chapter that provides the reason and necessity for a believer to do so. However, the believer must be led of the Holy Ghost in these things and not some man made organization, but to the kingdom of God. If believers are not led of the Spirit of God, they are not sons of God to begin with. This is for the one's that want to follow the Lord by taking up their cross....this is not understood in this present day, but has been polluted by charlatans who are hired hirelings rather than true leaders...

The first thing is a squabble over inheritance....the man requested Jesus to be a judge in the matter of his losing his natural inheritance...
"12:13 And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me. And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you? And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth." (Luke 12:13-15). A man's life is not measured in material possessions...this is the way the world judges..seeking after money rather than God.

What is this man's sin in the scripture listed below? Why is his soul required of him?
Again, what was his sin? Take a look at it below:

12:16 "And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully: And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits? And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods. And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry. But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God." (Luke 12:16-21).

What is this man's sin? He did not commit adultery...he did not blaspheme the Holy Ghost...but his soul was required of him. Is it because that he was rich toward self and not rich toward God. It is a sobering thought of one's life and balance sheet...

live like a bum?
God will provide for this believer who has entered into faith in God...." But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you." (Luke 12:31).

12:33 "Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth." (Luke 12:33). Notice, the Lord did not say, if you desire to sell that ye have, you can have this or that? or "If you want to sell that ye have...?" The Lord simply stated "Sell that ye have..." Pretty straight forward....

As a matter of truth, there is only one mention of a hundred fold blessing in the Word of God:
"And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life." (Matthew 19:29).

Again, a believer must be led of the Holy Ghost in these things and not by self, otherwise, it can be disastrous.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Beard

Amen Jebs brother....
the cross must be taken up by the believer in order to follow Jesus...

They can try to explain it away, but the Lord said in Luke 12 to "sell that ye have" in order to provide for yourself treasure in the heavens...and yes, it is truly an act of the will, for one must will to do so since it does not automatically happen to a believer...

The same chapter that Jesus instructed his disciples to "sell" that they had is the same chapter that provides the reason and necessity for a believer to do so. However, the believer must be led of the Holy Ghost in these things and not some man made organization, but to the kingdom of God. If believers are not led of the Spirit of God, they are not sons of God to begin with. This is for the one's that want to follow the Lord by taking up their cross....this is not understood in this present day, but has been polluted by charlatans who are hired hirelings rather than true leaders...

The first thing is a squabble over inheritance....the man requested Jesus to be a judge in the matter of his losing his natural inheritance...
"12:13 And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me. And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you? And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth." (Luke 12:13-15). A man's life is not measured in material possessions...this is the way the world judges..seeking after money rather than God.

What is this man's sin in the scripture listed below? Why is his soul required of him?
Again, what was his sin? Take a look at it below:

12:16 "And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully: And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits? And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods. And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry. But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God." (Luke 12:16-21).

What is this man's sin? He did not commit adultery...he did not blaspheme the Holy Ghost...but his soul was required of him. Is it because that he was rich toward self and not rich toward God. It is a sobering thought of one's life and balance sheet...

live like a bum?
God will provide for this believer who has entered into faith in God...." But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you." (Luke 12:31).

12:33 "Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth." (Luke 12:33). Notice, the Lord did not say, if you desire to sell that ye have, you can have this or that? or "If you want to sell that ye have...?" The Lord simply stated "Sell that ye have..." Pretty straight forward....

As a matter of truth, there is only one mention of a hundred fold blessing in the Word of God:
"And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life." (Matthew 19:29).

Again, a believer must be led of the Holy Ghost in these things and not by self, otherwise, it can be disastrous.

Have you sold All that you have? How much money did you make and who got it?

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by COOPER

Have you sold All that you have? How much money did you make and who got it?

[Beard]

COOPER
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Originally Posted by Beard View Post
Amen Jebs brother....
the cross must be taken up by the believer in order to follow Jesus...

They can try to explain it away, but the Lord said in Luke 12 to "sell that ye have" in order to provide for yourself treasure in the heavens...and yes, it is truly an act of the will, for one must will to do so since it does not automatically happen to a believer...

The same chapter that Jesus instructed his disciples to "sell" that they had is the same chapter that provides the reason and necessity for a believer to do so. However, the believer must be led of the Holy Ghost in these things and not some man made organization, but to the kingdom of God. If believers are not led of the Spirit of God, they are not sons of God to begin with. This is for the one's that want to follow the Lord by taking up their cross....this is not understood in this present day, but has been polluted by charlatans who are hired hirelings rather than true leaders...

The first thing is a squabble over inheritance....the man requested Jesus to be a judge in the matter of his losing his natural inheritance...
"12:13 And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me. And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you? And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth." (Luke 12:13-15). A man's life is not measured in material possessions...this is the way the world judges..seeking after money rather than God.

What is this man's sin in the scripture listed below? Why is his soul required of him?
Again, what was his sin? Take a look at it below:

12:16 "And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully: And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits? And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods. And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry. But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God." (Luke 12:16-21).

What is this man's sin? He did not commit adultery...he did not blaspheme the Holy Ghost...but his soul was required of him. Is it because that he was rich toward self and not rich toward God. It is a sobering thought of one's life and balance sheet...

live like a bum?
God will provide for this believer who has entered into faith in God...." But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you." (Luke 12:31).

12:33 "Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth." (Luke 12:33). Notice, the Lord did not say, if you desire to sell that ye have, you can have this or that? or "If you want to sell that ye have...?" The Lord simply stated "Sell that ye have..." Pretty straight forward....

As a matter of truth, there is only one mention of a hundred fold blessing in the Word of God:
"And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life." (Matthew 19:29).

Again, a believer must be led of the Holy Ghost in these things and not by self, otherwise, it can be disastrous.
Have you sold All that you have? How much money did you make and who got it?

Good question Coop....

Yes, I did sell all possessions in 1978
I made a little over $20,000 a year at the time in the insurance business
I gave to the ministry of Ray Strange who lived in Alexandria, LA at the time..

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Beard

Good question Coop....

Yes, I did sell all possessions in 1978
I made a little over $20,000 a year at the time in the insurance business
I gave to the ministry of Ray Strange who lived in Alexandria, LA at the time..

Did you have a wife and kids?
Were did you sleep?

I know for sure if My old Pastor or any Pastor preacher would start teaching to sell All you have,
Sell: House, Cars, Lands, Buisness and all possesions etc.
I would run out the door quicker than Greased Lightning.
It would be foolish to put my Family out on the streets with out a home, food, bedding or transportation to work and give every thing to some ministry.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Beard

Good question Coop....

Yes, I did sell all possessions in 1978
I made a little over $20,000 a year at the time in the insurance business
I gave to the ministry of Ray Strange who lived in Alexandria, LA at the time..

Do you have possesions now?
If so why get more if you are to sell everything?

[Beard]

COOPER
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Originally Posted by Beard View Post
Good question Coop....

Yes, I did sell all possessions in 1978
I made a little over $20,000 a year at the time in the insurance business
I gave to the ministry of Ray Strange who lived in Alexandria, LA at the time..
Did you have a wife and kids?
Were did you sleep?

I know for sure if My old Pastor or any Pastor preacher would start teaching to sell All you have,
Sell: House, Cars, Lands, Buisness and all possesions etc.
I would run out the door quicker than Greased Lightning.
It would be foolish to put my Family out on the streets with out a home, food, bedding or transportation to work and give every thing to some ministry.

yes, I had a wife and 2 children. We traveled with the ministry of Ray Strange for 2 years who provided a travel trailer for us to live in.

I would never sell possessions without the leading of God; therefore, I agree with you...

COOPER
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Originally Posted by Beard View Post
Good question Coop....

Yes, I did sell all possessions in 1978
I made a little over $20,000 a year at the time in the insurance business
I gave to the ministry of Ray Strange who lived in Alexandria, LA at the time..
Do you have possesions now?
If so why get more if you are to sell everything?

The ministry (DBMI) owns a gospel tent (60' X 170') with equipment, trucks, travel trailers for 2 other families that travel with us in ministry; My wife and I travel in a Bluebird Wanderlodge. We simply use any monies for existence and furtherance of the Gospel. It takes money to get the Gospel out to the lost and we are doing our best to win souls. I would not advise anyone to do this at all....just to those who are called of God to do so....

The next revival by the way is in Slidell, LA which starts in April. God bless you Coop...

[Scott Hutchinson]

Bro.Beard I pray that yall see a mighty move of the Holy Ghost in Slidell.

Originally Posted by COOPER

They were not instucted to sell lands and propeties the give it to the Apostles.
If you start commanding or suggesting something is a command or instruction of God that is only a Act of Will by the church in Acts then
you are
Are going down the Cult path buddy.

Go ahead and do it. live like a bumb for God.

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Jesus is Who instructed and commanded to sell out IF you follow Him.

"Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me." (Luke 18:22)

"And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need." (Acts 2:44-45)

"And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need." (Acts 4:32-35)

Man is not the one commanding anyone to sell out all of his or her possessions, it's Jesus who commands everyone who wills to follow Him to do such an act. Read Luke 18:22 Again.

As far as living like a bum for God, do you not know that the worldly possessions are nothing to the spiritual man and the spiritual possessions are nothing to the worldly man? I'd rather sell out for my God because I have chosen to follow Him and be a bum in your eyes versus selling my soul to worldly business and having houses, lands, etc. and look good in your eyes.

Amen Bro. Beard! I just now read your other posts above. You said it all and more!