FEAR FACTOR: Pentecostal/Apostolic Style

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

...there must be some rebellion in me because I don´t even think His name is Jehovah...maybe Yahweh but not Jehovah...for they had no J in the alphabet...

I don't know if it was Yahweh or Yehowah or what back then.
I believe it is now Yeshua or Yehoshua (or Jesus if you speak modern English).
In my 1611 KJV He was called Iesvs because our letter "J" wasn't used back then and a "v" and "u" were used interchangeably.

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I will give another example. Two precious friends...one the Lord REVEALED that communion was to be taken with wine...the other one had the Lord revealed to use grapejuice...
Both are precious...now who do I believe?

Unless I had a personal conviction against it, I would celebrate communion in each situation the way they saw fit.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Jeanie

Then prehaps the word 'revelation' is the wrong word to use?

I think perhaps a rediscovery, or a second look-IDK-

Baptism in Jesus name has always been there, but when they realized thats what they needed to do-

What did they call it 100 yrs ago?

Baptism in Jesus' name was called the "New Issue."

[Sister Alvear]

I have taken both...

[Sister Alvear]

I heard one preacher say in service, " I don´t know any church that has more truth than ours...one may exist but I have ever found it.."

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I have taken both...

Same here, even though @ NLC we only use grape juice.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

There are no new revelations as far as the bible is concerned because the bible is ancient and timeless book ,however something that is biblical based that is just revealed to someone from the scripture afresh is considered a new revelation to them because it is newly revealed to me.
There are only ancient and timeless truths newly revealed to those hungry for truth.

The Holy Ghost has to reveal truth to us because the bible is spiritual discerned.

Some one has said:

If it's new, it's not true
and
if it's true, it's not new.

[EA]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Yes.



I challenge you to show me in ANY of my posts here which point to what you are accusing me of. I have no where maligned anyone who has not "followed the cloud" as I have. I have NEVER EVER counseled anyone to leave the UPC, including YOU......not here not EVER....no one......no how! Sorry, that dog won't hunt, Ed!

Huh?

Where did I accuse you of counseling someone to leave the UPC?

MOW, go back and read your original post. The crux of that post is that rejecting new revelations is old fashioned and bad. It seems your point was that those who reject vogue "revelations" are closed to anything new from God.

Posted by MOW:
A few hungry people receive the additional "revelation" and unfortunately are labeled heretics by the established group. Those in the group who have embraced the additional "revelation" are ostracized and retain the heretic label. Those folks leave the group, while retaining the previous "revelation" and rejoicing over the new revelation/truth which brings new life, excitement, conversions etc.

This is the world according to MOW:

Those who leave = good.
Those who reject = bad.

[ManOfWord]

My original post was observing a historical pattern. You can call it good or bad. I opened up discussion of this pattern without specifics. You. Seem to think I have some type of agenda. Well, you're right! My agenda is discussing this historical pattern. What do you think about it?

[EA]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

My original post was observing a historical pattern. You can call it good or bad. I opened up discussion of this pattern without specifics. You. Seem to think I have some type of agenda. Well, you're right! My agenda is discussing this historical pattern. What do you think about it?

I think your basic premise has merit.

However, I think your application of that premise is faulty and colored by your personal experiences.