I wonder why Jason isn't this adamant about advocating laws for other heart issues ... in a society in order to preserve principles which "remain the bedrock of civil government-that of order, authority, personal and property right (sic),etc"
The works of the flesh are just as sinful, heinous, abominable, putrid to His nostrils and found to be in violation of the Word of God .... and yes, cause disorder in a society ....
Where is the righteous indignation from fire-brands like Jason to protect his family and posterity concerning those who will not cede the civil rights of these workers of the flesh .... Maybe a march on Washington is necessary for those who practice these as well?
fornication
pornogaphy
lust
all forms of lying
gossiping
anger
revilers
those who practice witchcraft
envy
idolatry
hatred
pride
(
Galatians 5)
For most apostolics we can include:
drinking
smoking
It's no wonder homosexuality, a sin, like all sins, is the whipping boy of those who in one breathe speak of "limiting the role of big government" while spiritualizing politics with doom and gloom..
it's too easy ... and allows the legalists to thump their chests like Pharisees and spit hate rhetoric OR QUESTION ANY WHO DISAGREE WITH THEIR POSITION OF CIVIL RIGHTEOUSNESS
No one in this thread is advocating any of these sins ... but to say that none of these people have the right to lay down their lives for their country ... is absurd ...
Squawk ... hee-haw, posture, make fallacious appeals to authority and color-code sin all you want ... you don't know any person's heart ... it's complex, hidden, wicked and perverse without Christ ...
the guy showering at the gym or army barrack may be a Oneness Apostolic ... married, with kids but is a closet, struggling "bi-sexual" who may lust over the atheist Wiccan fully dressed passing through ... but so may it be ... I will not legislate over it. I will preach and teach the Word and allow Him to give the increase.
As a Christian ... I can declare his sin is wrong ... as a libertarian I refuse to allow the puritanical or tyrannical to infringe on our civil rights.
Moreover, I find those who bellyache about Sharia law as the reason to infringe on the right for houses of worship to be built to practice their own brand of Sharia law here in our own country ... THEY ARE A REAL DANGER TO OUR BLOOD-BOUGHT FREEDOM AS WELL.
These are the same moral people who war monger and believe we need to spend our tax dollars on more weapons of mass destruction and nuclear proliferation and shrug their shoulders and don't even wince when collateral war damage nukes 120,000 innocents in Nagasaki and Hiroshima or massacres women and children in Vietnam or Iraq or when animal tranquilizers are used to execute another human being in our own country.
Yes, your hypocrisy scares me. And I don't want you to be in positions of influence and power but will not advocate you not having the right to.
You speak of the rule of law ...
as a society we have agreed that those who break the law, i.e. murderers, tax cheats, can be incarcerated and their liberties infringed as a consequence to their actions ... yet as long as homosexuality is not a crime or against the law ... nor is idolatry ... or witchcraft ... I cannot in good conscience ... take away their CIVIL LIBERTY to serve in the military ... or shower in any designated men's or women's only area ... or equal access to our rights as American citizens.
Yet, you'd trample on gays not being allowed to serve while allowing the Wiccan, atheist, fornicator, reviler with appeals to selective authority and tacit, wanton stamps of approval.
Your form of rule of law is demagogic, flippant and counterfeit ... those who consent to it ... the same.
Wrought with San Hedrin AND HOMOPHOBIC thinking. (And I will say it again and again .. and again.)
We will agree to disagree.
I guess I too, like you, will take the moral high road.