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Old 07-26-2011, 04:21 PM
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Re: Why was my Christianity in Question?

yes they can, they choose the new supreme court justices. It is a fact that when reagon left office it was at a 4-5 vote on abortion.
bush sr. threw away the chance to make it 5-4 against abortion. A conservative prez usaully picks conservative justices.
The president could also introduce a law in congress to make abortion illegal.
hmmmmmmmm
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:25 PM
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yes they can, they choose the new supreme court justices. It is a fact that when reagon left office it was at a 4-5 vote on abortion.
bush sr. threw away the chance to make it 5-4 against abortion. A conservative prez usaully picks conservative justices.
The president could also introduce a law in congress to make abortion illegal.
hmmmmmmmm
then the problem is never solved..because you continue to put it in the hands of nine men..The problem is the same as with prohibition...it's a continual back and forth war..it will never end and all the energy wasted on the issue ...the solution is not in the law but the people...
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:57 PM
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yes they can, they choose the new supreme court justices. It is a fact that when reagon left office it was at a 4-5 vote on abortion.
bush sr. threw away the chance to make it 5-4 against abortion. A conservative prez usaully picks conservative justices.
The president could also introduce a law in congress to make abortion illegal.
hmmmmmmmm
Are you an advocate of no abortion period? Even when mom's life is in danger? Just curious
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Old 07-26-2011, 05:07 PM
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Are you an advocate of no abortion period? Even when mom's life is in danger? Just curious
Friend, I have no children and I am 44. I would never want to put anyones life in danger,ok. having no children I do make an extra effort to speak up for those who can not speak.
I am prolife and wish no harm to any mother. On safety for a mother that is between her and her doctor. No one has the right to tell someone else how to handle a medical issue. The right to privacy must also be protected.

Otherwise, if the mothers life is in danger that is between her and her doctor. that is not my bussiness. the Gov. has no right to tell people how to make a personal decision.
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Old 07-26-2011, 06:32 PM
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Friend, I have no children and I am 44. I would never want to put anyones life in danger,ok. having no children I do make an extra effort to speak up for those who can not speak.
I am prolife and wish no harm to any mother. On safety for a mother that is between her and her doctor. No one has the right to tell someone else how to handle a medical issue. The right to privacy must also be protected.

Otherwise, if the mothers life is in danger that is between her and her doctor. that is not my bussiness. the Gov. has no right to tell people how to make a personal decision.
Thanks for clarifying your position.
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Old 07-26-2011, 07:47 PM
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Why you say it's sad..none of the presidents can change that law..
Baby killing is sad
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:17 PM
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I wouldn't question a persons Christianity based on them being a political liberal.

I will question their sanity though. A possibly their underlying desire to get even with those who they feel have more than them in life.
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Old 07-28-2011, 10:44 AM
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Baby killing is sad
Which is sadder? if a person born in this world lives and then is sent to hell for all the various reason's mainly not being born again.. Don't we have enough people already in the world on their way to hell..How many converts do you have? in your life time so far???

but mainly, presently, what are you going to do with an unwanted child born in the world???
How is it that so many people born in this world, unwanted , wind up in prison ?

How many unwanted children in this world are you caring for right now. I mean personally ?

I could go on but I thought I 'd give you just a few things to consider . I'm not trying to change your opinion ..just defending my own ideas on the subject..a subject I usually always avoid..but it has been so constant so prevalent and I am sick of it especially since I can't have a baby without a female in agreement.
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I wouldn't question a persons Christianity based on them being a political liberal.

I will question their sanity though. A possibly their underlying desire to get even with those who they feel have more than them in life.
I am liberal..and so is Jesus.. I didn't see him trying to force anyone to live the way he wanted them to... He came , he set up his Kingdom, and he left..
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:17 PM
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Are you an advocate of no abortion period? Even when mom's life is in danger? Just curious
First of all, that mom's life in danger is almost 100% a false charge. In my career I have not seen in the medical world a single case of need to kill the baby to save the mom's life. In my view, an ectopic pregnancy is a death threat for the baby. it is going to die. (ectopic pregnancy is a mothers risk also) and I will add there can be cases when there was a spontaneously aborted ectopic pregnancy and the mother didn't ever know it. There are several locations or types of ectopic pregnancies. I digress, the abortionists are in the uterine pregnancy abortion business.


Now outside medicine, my lake neighbor was pregnant. She then found she had cancer and chemo would kill her child. she also was honestly told that if she did take chemo, abort the boy, that didn't mean she would survive cancer. The boy is 10 years old. Mom died long ago and dad remarried. M om rejected chemo.

Pardon me if I am graphic, in an abortion mill, the legal deed is to have a psych eval for the mom and the consult says mom will suffer irreparible harm, the baby can be aborted. What actually happens, the consult never happens,. the abortionist when mom is in stirrups, looks to the mother and it looks like a baby would be inconvenient for parties and lifestyle so she gets diagnosis for mental risk.

An independent short note is signed by a doc and they play the paperwork game.

having offered a few observations, what makes anyone think the abortion isn't also a risk? You have bleeding, infection a ruptured uterous and anesthetic risk. later in life, greatly increased risk of breast cancer. Women do not pretend abortion is risk free.
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