OK, aside from the supposable 100 receiving the Holy Ghost, the 10.00 ticket issue is in fact, an issue.
Today's modern Church is infected by the huge cash flow of America's abundance, and many have grown weary of auction type begging for an offering, ("Who will give me 10.00?? Do I hear 20.00? OK, we've got 20.00, folks, who will give me 30.00?"), fear tactics regarding the Tithe, and Fund Raisers that rob people of precious time in our busy World.
From radio to TV, the punch line for more money is all over Religion. In fact, it's dripping from the Faith's that we adore.
I have been a pastor for the last 15 years, and I will be gut honest here, about the ONLY time my phone rings from others in my District is when they need, you guessed it, MONEY! CFC, Mothers Memorial, SFC, SOC, these Fund Raisers have turned into a circus of hassling people for more money. All of our Rally’s are connected to these monetary needs, and it’s embarrassing to even invite visitors.
Then, to top it off, we print the names of Churches and Pastors who give the most money!!!!! We give them plaques, trophies, and shout their names from the rooftops, while those with little are left to the dogs of false judgment.
Again it was NOT a regular service. It was a special service with a special guest. They have to pay for her appearance and her accomodations plus the buildig seats only 500 and tickets is a good way to have crowd control instead of having 3000 angry people show up
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Again it was NOT a regular service. It was a special service with a special guest. They have to pay for her appearance and her accomodations plus the buildig seats only 500 and tickets is a good way to have crowd control instead of having 3000 angry people show up
I can understand the crowd control, give the tickets to those who want to come. But the bolded part I guess I do have a problem with. Let her get the offering. It will most likely be more than the ticket proceeds anyway.
She is not there to give anything she earned, created, or worked for, her gifts and messege are given to her by God. It's not hers to sell. Nor anybody else for that matter.
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
I can understand the crowd control, give the tickets to those who want to come. But the bolded part I guess I do have a problem with. Let her get the offering. It will most likely be more than the ticket proceeds anyway.
She is not there to give anything she earned, created, or worked for, her gifts and messege are given to her by God. It's not hers to sell. Nor anybody else for that matter.
Well first of all EVERY guess speaker/evangelist gets paid.
This was NOT a regular service...is there an echo in here? If said that a dozen times now. Nobody whines about a church charging money for a banquet or a christmas play but this is an anniversary service and everyone goes ballistic
IF it's more than the ticket proceeds anyways, then why complain about charging 10 for tickets?
Yes she IS there to earn something. She was hired as a special speaker, not a campmeeting evangelist. Good grief folks. Once again this was NOT a regular service. ROFL
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Well first of all EVERY guess speaker/evangelist gets paid.
This was NOT a regular service...is there an echo in here? If said that a dozen times now. Nobody whines about a church charging money for a banquet or a christmas play but this is an anniversary service and everyone goes ballistic
IF it's more than the ticket proceeds anyways, then why complain about charging 10 for tickets?
Yes she IS there to earn something. She was hired as a special speaker, not a campmeeting evangelist. Good grief folks. Once again this was NOT a regular service. ROFL
Sorry to make you have to repeat yourself. My church only carries a couple hundred so I am not used to the operations of the larger churches. May be why I don't understand.
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
Again it was NOT a regular service. It was a special service with a special guest. They have to pay for her appearance and her accomodations plus the buildig seats only 500 and tickets is a good way to have crowd control instead of having 3000 angry people show up
Christians.... much less Apostolics (even tentative ones) should not be paying Paula White anything other than hush money....That woman needs to be told to sit down, shut up and repent.
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Sorry to make you have to repeat yourself. My church only carries a couple hundred so I am not used to the operations of the larger churches. May be why I don't understand.
Oh my gosh...I repeat It was NOT a regular church service. Wow. It was a special event like a LOT of churches have where they HIRE a special speaker and charge an entrance fee. It's NOT just about how many people might have attended ....this is crazy Ive had to say that a dozen times now
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Christians.... much less Apostolics (even tentative ones) should not be paying Paula White anything other than hush money....That woman needs to be told to sit down, shut up and repent.
That is beside the point. Good grief
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
please see my previous posts on this thread and about this subject. People are getthing the Holy Ghost, thats cool.
An apostolic thinks Paula White is cool, someone needs the Holy Ghost.
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