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Old 10-26-2011, 07:55 AM
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Re: House churches/Organic church, your opinion?

We cannot justify the failure of the institutional church to recognize and abide by I Corinthians 14:26-38 in our gatherings.
I Corinthians 14:37
37If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
If a gathering is too large to allow for all to prophesy and have the floor, share a revelation, etc.... it fails to meet this biblical mandate. We are essentially commanded to perform body ministry. Not to show up and listen to a "sermon".

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Old 10-26-2011, 08:07 AM
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Hey guys... NOBODY has attempted to address the following post:
[INDENT]The Bible (I Corinthians 14:26-38) illustrates that our meetings should have the following elements and guiding principles:
- Everyone being able to bring a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation.
- Gift of tongues coupled with interpretation, two or at most three.
- Two or three anointed teachers speak and guide the meeting.
- If a saint attending has a revelation or something to share, whoever is speaking must stop and give them the floor so that all might be able to prophesy, learn, and be encouraged. Meetings are to be discussion based.
- Those who address the group must realize that their spirits are subject to the anointed teachers guiding the group.
- Those who think they are spiritual Christians should acknowledge that this order of service is a command from the Lord.
it might be hard to follow this format in a Megachurch.
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:17 AM
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it might be hard to follow this format in a Megachurch.
Frankly, it's impossible in most larger churches and megachurches.

The point is... there isn't anything wrong with occasional larger gatherings if conducted weekly, monthly, or quarterly. However, to strictly meet in larger gatherings where "body ministry" is unable to flow, with every member participating, is to ignore this entire passage written by Paul that admonishes "body ministry". A larger assembly should have home fellowship groups to facilitate this Scriptural mandate at the very least... or they are just "shot gun feeding" a massive crowd of saints information and failing to allow for "body ministry" as Paul describes it in I Corinthians 14:26-38.

Notice, this format is the only commandment in Scripture regarding our gatherings. Therefore, even a house church that doesn't meet in a larger gathering clearly observes this Apostolic practice.

It's the larger gathering that is optional... not the smaller gathering that facilitates body ministry.

The house church is the foundational format for biblical churching, not the larger institutionalized meetings.
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:53 AM
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it might be hard to follow this format in a Megachurch.
You can't even have a good ol' fashioned testimony service in a megachurch.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:04 AM
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Most churches I see don't do testiomony service at all. Afraid that Bro or Sis So-and-so will getthe floor and say something ignorant. We had one thank god he found a full case of beer. Then there are always those who are incapable fo jsut getting to the point and want to give a 20 minute sob story of how bad their life is, but they than kGod that they know He will take care of them.
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There are some of those within about an hour of where I live. I have now ran into two of them, but I only spoke with one for a great length of time. I was able to explain, and he had asked me to, the Acts 2:38 message. I hope that I will be able to interact more with these fascinating people.

You had a rare opportunity, Jay. Normally, they do not ask other people questions about bible. It has been my experience that they do all the bible discussion...to you and me.

They are really great people though.

They meet in homes and they do have a church hierarchy within. They have district elders who choose which person goes where.
Women may become workers. But the odd thing is that couples may not become workers. Their doctrine is that when Jesus sent the disciples out "two by two" to the cities. So...they send either two men or two women out to the cities two by two. Often there are not enough workers to come to every home church, so the married men may lead the bible study or the meeting in the home.
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Maybe your nuts! lol.

For the record Aquila, i don't think your reallly nots, actually think you make valid points.
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I am for church. Any kind of church. Big building church with lots of people. Small building church with some people. house church with who ever you can get with.

What I am for is not forsaking getting together with believers. Its kind of biblical.

The setting is unemportant.

What i am not for is using the idea of "house church" to forsake getting together regularly with like minded christians and worshipping God.

I am also against a person going to a big church so they can get lost in the crowd and not have to "plug in". Better they go to a house church where they are involved and part of the group.


setting is not important. Outcome of the event however is vital.
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We cannot justify the failure of the institutional church to recognize and abide by I Corinthians 14:26-38 in our gatherings.
I Corinthians 14:37
37If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
If a gathering is too large to allow for all to prophesy and have the floor, share a revelation, etc.... it fails to meet this biblical mandate. We are essentially commanded to perform body ministry. Not to show up and listen to a "sermon".
Oh I don't know Aquilla, the peons also get to talk in the big settings, I mean they get to say stuff when the preacher says "tap yourself on the chest and say "my man a God"". Or thing like "preach it", "tell it", or "come on"!

I mean, what more could a person want out of a "service" to their "king".

In all seriousness, I think there is much to be gained having open dialogue in smaller numbers meetings about scripture and Gods will in our individual lives, things we are going thru as families etc, as long as it is remains "in decency and order". Mega churches having meetings also in homes I think is a good thing, being able to make these types of things happen where as they don't/can't in a bigger meeting.
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I am for church. Any kind of church. Big building church with lots of people. Small building church with some people. house church with who ever you can get with.

What I am for is not forsaking getting together with believers. Its kind of biblical.

The setting is unemportant.

What i am not for is using the idea of "house church" to forsake getting together regularly with like minded christians and worshipping God.

I am also against a person going to a big church so they can get lost in the crowd and not have to "plug in". Better they go to a house church where they are involved and part of the group.


setting is not important. Outcome of the event however is vital.
LOL... both scenarios that you are against are, indeed, common.
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