Common Myths about Gay Christians

[Aquila]

If someone still experiences same gender attraction, but they are committed to celibacy for Christ, are they a "gay Christian"?

I think a strong argument could be made for saying yes, they are a "gay Christian".

The term "ex-gay Christian" doesn't fit. Why? Because they still have same gender attraction. If one tells me they are an "ex-gay Christian", I think they no longer have same gender attraction and perhaps now like the opposite gender.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Should we send a memo to the entire planet so that they know what term you're totally fine with? Or are you going to address individuals who use the term individually, seeking to understand them as individuals?

I'll read the last three posts later... on a tight schedule this morning.

But meanwhile, can you give me a link or something of a church, person or ministry that are "Gay Christian" but are really Ex-gay and believe homosexuality is sin and an abomination?

I admit I may be ignorant here, but the Gay Christians groups I am aware of are current homosexual people.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Aquila

If someone still experiences same gender attraction, but they are committed to celibacy for Christ, are they a "gay Christian"?

I think a strong argument could be made for saying yes, they are a "gay Christian".

The term "ex-gay Christian" doesn't fit. Why? Because they still have same gender attraction. If one tells me they are an "ex-gay Christian", I think they no longer have same gender attraction and perhaps now like the opposite gender.

if somoene still has attraction for kids are they molester christian?

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Not getting it. Are you the final arbitrator of what terms everyone should use? Yes or no?

Will you reject an entire class of believer over a... term... without allowing them to clarify it individually? Wow. That's real shallow dude.

call me what you like just dont call me late for dinner!

[houston]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

I admit I may be ignorant here, but the Gay Christians groups I am aware of are current homosexual people.

Yep.

They say that you can never be free. You can only supress. In A.A. they stand and announce, I'm an alcoholic. Haven't touched a drop in 20 yrs.

Never free from alcohol, drugs, whatever the vice, just abstinent.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

I'll read the last three posts later... on a tight schedule this morning.

But meanwhile, can you give me a link or something of a church, person or ministry that are "Gay Christian" but are really Ex-gay and believe homosexuality is sin and an abomination?

I admit I may be ignorant here, but the Gay Christians groups I am aware of are current homosexual people.

I think Exodus International is one.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

if somoene still has attraction for kids are they molester christian?

Bro... you're comparing apples and oranges.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

call me what you like just dont call me late for dinner!

lol

[houston]

The founder of Exodus International and one of his higher-ups left Exodus, and joined eachother.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by houston

Yep.

They say that you can never be free. You can only supress. In A.A. they stand and announce, I'm an alcoholic. Haven't touched a drop in 20 yrs.

Never free from alcohol, drugs, whatever the vice, just abstinent.

For some... it is a lifelong struggle and will be until glorification. For others, counseling works. For yet others counseling brings no relief. Some receive a miraculous touch from God and are set free. It all might depend on the root cause of their individual homosexuality. Some it may be environmental, some it may be with relation to nurturing, others it might be a result of abuse, for some it may have began as a "kink", other others it might be genetic. Not knowing the cause in a given individual, it's impossible to find a one size fits all solution. Studies have shown that while some move on to be "ex-gays" the vast majority battle same gender attraction their entire lives, even if they move into a place where in the opposite gender brings a degree of attraction.

As for alcholism... Many have noted that there may be a genetic predisposition to alcoholism. To acknowledge that one has predisposition towards alcoholism or admit that the temptation remains in spite of abstinence is just honesty. Some are miraculously set free. Others aren't.

Again, we can't pigeon hole people into categories. People are in various places on both issues. One miraculously set free from either sinful disposition including being delivered from the mere temptation is an "ex" whatever. However, those who have managed to gain control of the behavior, and are abstinent yet temptation remains are clearly still of the same inclination.