The Trouble With Apostolics is... - Page 9

houston · #81 07-13-2012, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

"It's like when dad spends a little too much time tucking his daughter in at night, and mom keeps a smile on her face pretending that everything is ok."

you are refering to the Catholic Apostolic Church here right?

Not saying THAT is the problem. Saying there IS a problem but people stick their heads in the sand. No one wants to face reality.

Amanah · #82 07-13-2012, 06:25 AM

the problem is that we have a fallen nature, and we understand darkly, not clearly.

we are to set our affections on things above

we are to think on things that are lovely pure and true

yes yes yes, we have problems, but if you only dwell on the problems, it's like looking at your thumb under a microscope, it looks really odd and ugly the more closely you look and inspect it.

RandyWayne · #83 07-13-2012, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

I suppose in reality there are no different problems with Apostolics than there are with other denominations.

I wonder if those who leave the baptists continue to rant and throw daggers at the baptist church after they have left? Or is that a unique trait of those who have found "liberty" after leaving the Apostolic church? If all one can do is constantly point out problems with the church, maybe they are the one with the problems and not the church.

Ex-baptists can continue to, as you put it, throw daggers at the denomination after they leave. Just like some ex-AoG'ers can as well. And guess which ones do? People who attended specific churches with long lists of heavenly requirements which were drilled into the church members week after week after week along with a strong pastor who surrounded himself with the "Obey them!" and "Touch not my anointed!" commands. ANY church that does these things are going to be criticized by many, even after they no longer attend.

KeptByTheWord · #84 07-13-2012, 11:37 AM

I think could be summed up this way...

The trouble with Apostolics is...... they have lost their focus on the cross, and on Jesus himself, and have instead focused on the outward apperance, rather than the hidden man.

In Jesus' own words.... John 13:35 "By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another."

Perhaps if we focused more on Christ, and brotherly love .... we wouldn't have the trouble we do in apostolic (or any other denomination) ranks...

If we worked instead on loving one another, praying for one another, reaching out to those less fortunate than us... we would encompass the pure religion and undefiled that James spoke of in James 1:27.

Charnock · #85 07-13-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Charnock

The movement was founded on experience and feeling instead of solid Bible exegesis.

Quotes from a recent Wayne Huntley sermon...

"If you don't stand up, shout, jump up and down for Jesus, I'm wondering who you are for!"

"Fighting over getting a quarterback when we should be concerned over Jesus coming back!"

"We shouldn't make more of the Bulls than of the Lamb Slain. Of a touchdown than touched by Him. Of the Crimson tide over the Crimson stream"

"Fans never complain about the temperature, noise, parking, or overtime. When was the last time you complained about the length of church?"

Charnock · #86 07-13-2012, 11:44 AM

In my mind I can picture the crowd in a frenzy, thanking God for such a deep word.

RandyWayne · #87 07-13-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Charnock

Quotes from a recent Wayne Huntley sermon...

"If you don't stand up, shout, jump up and down for Jesus, I'm wondering who you are for!"
Ya, a lot of these guys don't have much discernment. Borat proved that.

"Fighting over getting a quarterback when we should be concerned over Jesus coming back!"

"We shouldn't make more of the Bulls than of the Lamb Slain. Of a touchdown than touched by Him. Of the Crimson tide over the Crimson stream"

"Fans never complain about the temperature, noise, parking, or overtime. When was the last time you complained about the length of church?"

I've complained about ALL those things INCLUDING the length of church.

Titus2woman · #88 07-13-2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Charnock

The movement exists solely as a counter-Christian enterprise.

This is the one I find the most disturbing and in a lot of cases true. It seems that a lot of 'Apostolics' spend little time spreading the gospel among the lost but rather are obsessed with winning over Christians from other denominations.

Charnock · #89 07-13-2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Charnock

The movement exists solely as a counter-Christian enterprise, and does not seriously attempt to evangelize the world.

The movement celebrates distinction from other Christian churches as much as it celebrates separation from "the world."

Comments like "MY Bible says...." and inordinate attention to what makes us better than others who don't possess our special revelations.

Charnock · #90 07-13-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Titus2woman

This is the one I find the most disturbing and in a lot of cases true. It seems that a lot of 'Apostolics' spend little time spreading the gospel among the lost but rather are obsessed with winning over Christians from other denominations.

Yep.