What does Mike Blume Really Believe ????

[Thad]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Thad,

The only REAL controversy is that die-hard dispensationalists cannot take it when we say God is finished with Natural Israel, and they hold no more place in prophecy than for all of them to come to God one day. We do not believe in a millennium in our future and we do not believe God will turn back to the Jews. Dispensationalism teaches that there are two plans of salvation for the Jews. Acts 2:38 for now, and the millennium salvation without Acts 2:38 in the tribulation and millennium.

matt 24 correlates with Rev chapt 6

in one of the seals that's listed 25% of the population is going to be wiped out. that has never happend in the history of the world at any time.

there has never been a mark of the beast either

If God is done with natural Israel what about 1948 and the miracles that have taken place since then ?

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

And you are incorrect on both.

Please do explain brother.

[Steve Epley]

Warning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any question you aks Elber Blume he already has 14 pages of symbols-metaphors-types-allegories to answer you. So he just pushes the button and here it comes. Elder Chalfant and Parsons did a wonderful job disproving his prophecy fallacies.

[Thad]

back in a while

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Thad

If God is done with natural Israel what about 1948 and the miracles that have taken place since then ?

God isn't done with natural Israel...

He manifested himself in flesh and died on a cross to save them.

But the good news of that redemptive work is the everlasting gospel and anyone who tries to enter then Kingdom any other way is a thief and a liar.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Warning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any question you aks Elber Blume he already has 14 pages of symbols-metaphors-types-allegories to answer you. So he just pushes the button and here it comes. Elder Chalfant and Parsons did a wonderful job disproving his prophecy fallacies.

Rather than just say that he is wrong.... why don't you bring some food for thought to the table??

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Thad

I don't think he was referring to the immediate generation but rather the one to come just before the end. how then do you explain all that has happend since 1948 ?

Brother, THERE IS NO WAY GOD GATHERED ISRAEL IN 1948. Look at what the bible says about WHAT MUST OCCUR in order for God to gather them:

Deu 30:1-3 KJV And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee, (2) And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul; (3) That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.

Paul actually quotes from this chapter and uses these words:

Deu 30:10-14 KJV If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul. (11) For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. (12) It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? (13) Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? (14) But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

Rom 10:6-12 KJV But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above (7) Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.) (8) But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; (9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. (11) For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. (12) For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

It is saying they must onbe ACTS 2:38!!!!!! The word of Father Paul preached!

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Please do explain brother.

Isreal as nation will be restored to the favor of God.

There is a 1000 year period where Jesus reigns on the earth in the future.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Warning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any question you aks Elber Blume he already has 14 pages of symbols-metaphors-types-allegories to answer you. So he just pushes the button and here it comes. Elder Chalfant and Parsons did a wonderful job disproving his prophecy fallacies.

Warning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

Anything Brother Epley disagrees with you on he will just say you are wrong and will not give any explanation as to why.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Isreal as nation will be restored to the favor of God.

There is a 1000 year period where Jesus reigns on the earth in the future.

Those are 2 nicely worded sentences you have there brother.

Of course they are conjecture and opinion and completely devoid of any scriptural backing... but some really great sentence work nonetheless.