Dave Bernard addresses beards

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

About 35 0r 40. But NO facial hair. I am the pastor here I realize most folks on here have pastors who are afraid of their shadows. But I pastor here. Not boasting or being a smart aleck but that is my job. And I draw the line. Just NOT going to have facial hair on the saints here.

A good example of the doctrines and commandments of men.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Is it possible you might change your mind in say 15 or 20 years... Or do you consider this an unchanging truth??

No sir I am NOT changing my mind. It hasn't changed on this in the last 40 years why should I change now or later. I do not claim it is an unchanging truth I am only saying I do NOT allow men to have facial in this church and be recieved as a member. NOPE not going to change.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Would you actually ask one to leave your church if he decided to grow one?

Yes I would in a New York's second. I am tolerant of new folks and have never embarassed a man publicly but I just tell them we do not have facial hair here. There are Pentecostal churches around that would be glad to have them so I say Loose them and let them go. By the way I have never lost a man that I know over the facial hair issue.

[Thad]

Epley

you fellowshipped PAW back years ago when you considered them them still saved and they had facial hair always. So, what about them? we they lost yet you fellowshipped?

[Trouvere]

Just my opinion but I don't like a beard on a man.My dad had a moustache forever and my husband did before we married.I was glad when he shaved it
as it dropped years off his face.I hated when dad kissed my cheek because that old picky moustance got me every time.The church we attend does not
preach against facial hair and its a UPC church.I don't ever remember anyone
preaching "Shave your face." Does anyone preach that? If anyone thinks every UPC church does then they are wrong.

For the Brother who said he did not like Brother Bernard.Do you even know him? Is it his teaching you do not like?

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

You "heard".

"I don't have a direct quote".

"No documentation".


Hmmmm J/W under normal circumstances, would this be considered gossip?

:sshhh

Originally Posted by rrford

For crying out loud. Some of you must have never read his books or looked at his operating policy on his website. The man has never said beards were a sin. And I have known him for 25 years. Not one time in class or through the years did he ever state wearing a beard was a sin.

This is not some new Bernard Revelation.

No responses, no accountability...

Hmmm new thread idea

[Thad]

I would not wear one but I don't believe others are lost for something Jesus himself wore. can you ?
we as white people view facial hair from a standpoint of unlcean, unkept, rebellion against leadership. I know how that was the perception birthed out of the free Love era. but understand, that many other ethnic groups were never part of this whole rebellion movement and cannot relate to it at all therefore to tell them they are doing it out of rebellion makes no sense. anyone understand ?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Thad

I would not wear one but I don't believe others are lost for something Jesus himself wore. can you ?
we as white people view facial hair from a standpoint of unlcean, unkept, rebellion against leadership. I know how that was the perception birthed out of the free Love era. but understand, that many other ethnic groups were never part of this whole rebellion movement and cannot relate to it at all therefore to tell them they are doing it out of rebellion makes no sense. anyone understand ?

Is this what they call WHITE GUILT????

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Here is a 70 yr old photo and NONE of them have a beard either.

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

Here is a 70 yr old photo and NONE of them have a beard either.

Didn't know they had computers back then...