Jail/Homosexuality

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Here's what is happening right now.

http://www.komonews.com/communities/...?tab=video&c=y

Note that from what we can see the Preachers did NOT attempt to hit the gays.

This is only the begging of the attacks on Christianity, eventually more attacks will follow.

This is what happened already Christians killed for preaching righteousness, get ready to flee or die folks, that is what Christians often had to do, at least you get to travel from city to city, meet new people and spread the faith, just like in the book of Acts.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

This is only the begging of the attacks on Christianity, eventually more attacks will follow.

This is what happened already Christians killed for preaching righteousness, get ready to flee or die folks, that is what Christians often had to do, at least you get to travel from city to city, meet new people and spread the faith, just like in the book of Acts.

I can't stand those self-righteous placards. The Christians are causing trouble for us all. They would be much more effectual if they stayed home or met at the church to pray.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I can't stand those self-righteous placards. The Christians are causing trouble for us all. They would be much more effectual if they stayed home or met at the church to pray.

If there were more Christians with placards there would more Christians in the land. I fully support their work and the trouble they are causing for all of us.

Christianity has always caused trouble, it is time for Christianity to stir up trouble and have riots like in the time of Paul, when not only some people rioted, but whole cities rioted and wanted to kill Paul.

Let us turn the world upside down.
Let us make the whole world notice us, and want to kill us.

I can almost hear the cry of Christians to the Lions, we need more persecution, we need for some of us Christians put our lives on the line.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

If there were more Christians with placards there would more Christians in the land. I fully support their work and the trouble they are causing for all of us.

Christianity has always caused trouble, it is time for Christianity to stir up trouble and have riots like in the time of Paul, when not only some people rioted, but whole cities rioted and wanted to kill Paul.

Let us turn the world upside down.
Let us make the whole world notice us, and want to kill us.

I can almost hear the cry of Christians to the Lions, we need more persecution, we need for some of us Christians put our lives on the line.

Do you want me to actually believe that the Disciples "turned the world upside down" by picketing? You can't be serious.

You do realize that Paul had such an anointing, the people were touching him with their handkerchiefs or aprons, taking them home and laying them on the sick?

Acts 19:11-12 "And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul: So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them."

How powerless do we want to make the Gospel by works of the flesh? We are making it a mockery.

[Tim Rutledge]

When preachers start going to jail, many inmates will respect them for standing up against homosexuality. A large population of the incarcerated have a disdain for perverts. Let the heathen rage. Revival will be the end result.

I realize this sounds a bit over the top. But the Lord will have His way in the whirlwind.

IMO. Most homosexuals are reprobates. God has turned them over.

I pray that all come to repentance.

[Michael The Disciple]

I preach on the street myself and use several signs. Im probably the only Preacher some will get to see. I highly respect someone who will go out soul winning where the sinners are.

I will always remember the time I went to a Folk Festival in Athens Ohio in 1971. We started out drinking and smoking pot. We tried to steal a tent out of a guys yard. He saw us and chased us down the road.

When we arrived in Athens that morning we were broke having spent everything on partying and gas. We saw a bus with a sign "free food inside".

We thought wow now we can even eat for free! Once inside we discovered it was Jesus Freaks witnessing! Yea we ate the food while they talked Jesus. They handeled my questions with the greatest of cool! They presented a Jesus that ministered to sinners on the street. I was really moved!

Didn't repent right then but I kept thinking about it over and over. I still thank God for the blessing of being witnessed to on the street. It was a great example that I have tried to follow now for about 35 years.

These guys on the video seemed really focused. They did not seem to be fighting back, That's the way it should be. Believers boldly preaching repentance and taking the consequences whether it be good or bad.

[Pressing-On]

MTD, FREE FOOD is a whole lot different than walking into a crowd that you are opposed to with a placard saying - Drugs, Rock and Roll, Jesus Saves Sinners.

It is the same thing, IMO, as saying - You no-good, dirty rotten, low-down sinners - REPENT!

Jesus Saves!

Eeesh!

I would refuse to participate in that.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

MTD, FREE FOOD is a whole lot different than walking into a crowd that you are opposed to with a placard saying - Drugs, Rock and Roll, Jesus Saves Sinners.

It is the same thing, IMO, as saying - You no-good, dirty rotten, low-down sinners - REPENT!

Jesus Saves!

Eeesh!

I would refuse to participate in that.

But consider this. You or I don't know the thoughts and intents of those street preachers hearts. Perhaps these brave men actually believe that what Jesus said was true?

That if one dies in their sins they are going to a burning hell of fire? For thousands of years? Maybe millions of years? Maybe billions of years? Drowning every day all day long in flames? But wait is it trillions of years wrapped in the fires of torment? What if it were only 100 years? Wouldn't that seem like an eternity to the lost?

What if these men really believed that? If so then these men were showing an awesome sacrifice of them SELVES in order to try to wake these people up!

Why? Because they LOVED THE LOST! They were spending their time and their lives to try to save them from the wrath to come!

Who else is loving them like that? Most walk right by such people (many would go to the other side of the street) as if they were not in danger of the fires of Hell at all. They would say nothing at all.

So who is the friend to the sinner?

Let us not forget it was JESUS CHRIST who told his disciples that if people do not believe in the gospel they will be damned!

So can you imagine how hard it would be to persuade such crowds of people living in deep sin before God that THEY ARE LOST?

See we must first accept that we are sinners before we can be saved! How many "Christians" love the lost enough to tell them so?

How many are courageous enough to actually go find lost people, tell them about righteousness, temperance, and judgment to come? That they must repent of sins and turn to Christ?

It could well be that the sight of these men would actually prick the conscience of sinners and make them consider their ways? It could be that the sight of the wicked brutalizing the righteous would cause them to think about the difference between right and wrong? Between good and evil?

Again I don't know these men. But I respect them far more than some Church groups who may talk about "love" but who would not consider taking of their time and putting their lives at risk to actually reach lost people with the message of Jesus.

[Pressing-On]

MTD, I am sure that these street preachers would be willing to help someone in need.

However, let me address the back of the placard. You can view that at the 1:33 to 1:42 mark.
http://www.komonews.com/news/crime/V...?c=y&tab=video

REPENT OR ELSE - flames of hellfire.

Nice. It comes across as hate more than love, IMO.

I also feel the church needs to work out it's own statistics, which compete with the world, i.e. divorce, etc., before they start throwing flames into a crowd of homosexuals.

And further, I would want to show the beauty of the Word before I threw up hell fire imagery in a sinners face.

It reminds me much of a Bible study called, Rightly Dividing the Word. That Bible study has good scripture, but is more geared to someone who you feel is ready to make a decision for their life that day.

Into His Marvelous Light, which I have had very great success with, shows the beauty of God's plan, and IMO, a person can't help but see their value in God's eyes.

We talk and preach about not skinning a fish before it is in the boat - waving placards around with flames of hellfire is, IMO, trying to skin a fish.

It is just not my style. I'm not going to talk about hell at the outset. I am going to talk about His plan for our lives. What was the purpose of the Comforter and why did He have to go away. It's a beautiful plan for our salvation. I want someone to know that first.

[Tim Rutledge]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

MTD, I am sure that these street preachers would be willing to help someone in need.

However, let me address the back of the placard. You can view that at the 1:33 to 1:42 mark.
http://www.komonews.com/news/crime/V...?c=y&tab=video

REPENT OR ELSE - flames of hellfire.

Nice. It comes across as hate more than love, IMO.

I also feel the church needs to work out it's own statistics, which compete with the world, i.e. divorce, etc., before they start throwing flames into a crowd of homosexuals.

And further, I would want to show the beauty of the Word before I threw up hell fire imagery in a sinners face.

It reminds me much of a Bible study called, Rightly Dividing the Word. That Bible study has good scripture, but is more geared to someone who you feel is ready to make a decision for their life that day.

Into His Marvelous Light, which I have had very great success with, shows the beauty of God's plan, and IMO, a person can't help but see their value in God's eyes.

We talk and preach about not skinning a fish before it is in the boat - waving placards around with flames of hellfire is, IMO, trying to skin a fish.

It is just not my style. I'm not going to talk about hell at the outset. I am going to talk about His plan for our lives. What was the purpose of the Comforter and why did He have to go away. It's a beautiful plan for our salvation. I want someone to know that first.

I agree.