ALJC vs UPCI

[Servant's <3]

I am not aware of any reason two people may be divorced.

Ephesians 5:25.... after all

[Steve Epley]

Not a spiritual perspective but a real one just the same. Guys who have spent all their time, energy, money in the ALJC wouldn't be interested in seeing it dissolved it has been part of their lives nearly all their lives. The relationship between the two groups is probably better than it had been ever. The present chairman has really tried in offering the olive branch to other Pentecostals that believe the necessity of the new birth and some form of outward standards. Since the television prohibition is gone I don't know any major differences?

[amh]

Originally Posted by Servant's <3

I am not aware of any reason two people may be divorced.

Ephesians 5:25.... after all

Yes Ephesians 5:25 but also other verses.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Servant's <3

I believe yes even if it was pre-conversion... again I could be wrong.

I knew a rocker who turned UPC minister. He's a Pastor now. Before his conversion, he was in a rock band doing the whole sex, drugs and rock and roll. He preached at the church my father pastored and gave his testimony. IIRC he didn't get married until after he was in church a while.

[n david]

Matt 5:31, 32
31 "It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.'
32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

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[Servant's <3]

When it says husband's love your wives as Christ loved the church, Can the church do ANYTHING that Christ does not love it?

From my perspective, and remember I am nobody, if I were to marry there is NO REASON i could consent to a divorce. That is not to say I would not be absolutely crushed should the unfathomable happen. But to put divorce on the table is tantamount to saying I cannot forgive her or I do not love her. Maybe that could change... and again I am not anyone's judge or authority, but that is my perspective. Those that do not forgive will not be forgiven. I need forgiveness every second of every day.

[good samaritan]

I was talking to some elderly people between 80 and 90 here recently. Each had been married on weak conditions. They were leaving to get away from home against their parents wishes. One even lied on their age to get by with it. In the 1920's and 30's it amazes me that people married that where too young and didn't even know the other person and they lasted 50+ years and I ask what has changed.

IMO, the roles have changed. In those days the family depended on one another. The man was the protector and provider of the home and without his key role they would struggle to make it. That roles is no longer distinctive and now both male and female can find equal opportunity and the husband is not as important. Divorce is imminent.

There is a message in this. God is an option with people, and His role is no longer important to them. No longer do we live off the land and depend on the natural elements like rain and sunshine. People now place all importance on having money and good insurance. This is off subject I know, but the last couple of posts made me think about this.

[Servant's <3]

Although, I hope I NEVER EVER EVER EVER have to put that to the test. The idea of doing that to someone or it being done to me is unconscionable.

[good samaritan]

What are you referring to?

[Servant's <3]

Adultery. Having to forgive a spouse for that.