Are all things possible with God?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

To have the truth and pray to God that we don't have the truth sounds very illogical. I would rather pray that the Lord would use me to see souls saved. I pray for the Lord to have mercy on people, but I am absolute in my faith that is only through Jesus Christ. There are much more edifying things to pray for; then me being wrong. If I am wrong why would I have to pray for God to make me wrong, wouldn't it already be so.

"If I am wrong why would I have to pray for God to make me wrong, wouldn't it already be so."

First of all I didn't say pray to God to make you wrong.

I said pray that you are wrong. That could happen either by you already being wrong and God just revealing it. Or it could be that God changes everything to make you be wrong.

Regardless of how it occurs can you honestly say things are better by you being right?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

That's why it cannot be taken seriously, because you have an individual asking you to pray to God that you are wrong concerning what you have studied and prayed over. Odd business he is proposing as just and right.

Only odd if you'd rather have truth than souls.

[thephnxman]

[QUOTE]

All things are possible with God, according to His predetermined will and pleasure.

"If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken...twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools..."

"For with God, ALL things are possible."

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by jfrog

"If I am wrong why would I have to pray for God to make me wrong, wouldn't it already be so."

First of all I didn't say pray to God to make you wrong.

I said pray that you are wrong. That could happen either by you already being wrong and God just revealing it. Or it could be that God changes everything to make you be wrong.

Regardless of how it occurs can you honestly say things are better by you being right?

If I already am wrong why would I have to pray for it to be so. If that were the case wouldn't I need to pray for God to show me that I am wrong for my own salvation, and not the salvation of others.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Isn't that kind of like asking how many people has your bible steered to atheism? I'd say it's steered many to that place. I'm sure you'd disagree with that but how can any of us say for sure what steers someone one place or another?

No, it isn't like saying how many have been steered to Atheism, I brought up a Sadhu, he reads the vedic scriptures, he is devout to his religion, and has never herd of a Bible. While a religious book has never steered anyone to Atheism, or Agnosticism, we cannot use that example. My father was an Atheist because of the world around him. It was his own choice not induced by some religious loathing. but now I understand you don't believe the Bible is true. So, one down.

Originally Posted by jfrog

So I think the true answer is that God can be found wherever he is sought.

Back to where we started, so he isn't the God of the Bible, because you just don't know? So, he could be anything from Zeus to Shiva?

Originally Posted by jfrog

That doesn't mean everything in any religious book is totally right or accurate but that there are some truths in them and the true seeker of God will find those truths even in books you deem heretical and wrong.

So, it is all left up to everyman's heart is god and therefore if he is good by virtue of god within he will find all truths? Sound like Guruji Swamiji whats good for you might not be good for me.

Originally Posted by jfrog

So the next question is who do I believe will go to heaven. I couldn't say.

Discussion over.

Originally Posted by jfrog

I couldn't say what requirements are there.

But we are wrong, and we need the I don't really know guide to show us the way?

Originally Posted by jfrog

I couldn't say what restrictions there are.

But what if there are mountains of restrictions, what if Hinduism is true and you will be thrown into another life as an untouchable?

Originally Posted by jfrog

I couldn't say much about it.

But you start a thread about it so you can shoot down whatever is posted to you? Yeah, you're a hater.

Originally Posted by jfrog

I'd say it's in God's hands.

Well, there you go that was a short thread.

Originally Posted by jfrog

Surprisingly, that's similar to what most apostolics profess at the end of the day when asked about otherwise good christian people that died without being baptized or receiving the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues....

You sure don't like them A Postolic Pennycoster.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Only odd if you'd rather have truth than souls.

What souls? People have a free will to do as they very well please, some people don't want to go to heaven. Even if you showed them the brochure and opened the gates yourself, they would walk the other way. They don't want your god no matter how comfortable and how loving you make him out to be. They don't want your morals, they don't want your pity, and they don't want your care, or humanism. If what you have isn't supernatural power, then all you have left is psychobabble nicer than Jesus I'm OK your OK. No one wants it. Doesn't stick never will. Your philosophy of good intentions just pave the way to hell and they are on rockets with superchargers

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

If I already am wrong why would I have to pray for it to be so. If that were the case wouldn't I need to pray for God to show me that I am wrong for my own salvation, and not the salvation of others.

You can be wrong about what it takes to be saved and still be saved wouldn't you say?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by jfrog

You can be wrong about what it takes to be saved and still be saved wouldn't you say?

I think you should really consider the Baconator at Wendy's

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I think you should really consider the Baconator at Wendy's

lol. If they were open after midnight I may have picked one up on my way home

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by jfrog

lol. If they were open after midnight I may have picked one up on my way home

Well, get one as soon as possible.