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06-13-2007, 10:39 AM
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Btw, I consider that one of my best posts ever.
Maybe the truth of it offends Dan?
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06-13-2007, 10:40 AM
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You know, PP, I completely agree with that post. I recently wrote an essay entitled "Should I Stay or Should I Go Now" that discusses why I left.
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06-13-2007, 10:44 AM
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You know, PP, I completely agree with that post. I recently wrote an essay entitled "Should I Stay or Should I Go Now" that discusses why I left.
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Thank you. The point is that I don't understand why people are part of something they absolutely loathe. Why claim the title "Apostolic" when you hate all it has traditionally represented.
Epley has made a great point with this thread.
It's not about standards.
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06-13-2007, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Thank you. The point is that I don't understand why people are part of something they absolutely loathe. Why claim the title "Apostolic" when you hate all it has traditionally represented.
Epley has made a great point with this thread.
It's not about standards.
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THIS COMING FROM THE GUY WHO OPENLY ADMITTED HE DOES NOT LIKE THE TERM APOSTOIC BUT PREFERS TO BE CALLED A PENTECOSTAL ...
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ER+PENTECOSTAL
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06-13-2007, 10:50 AM
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And your point is?
Daniel, are you an Ex-Pentecostal?
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06-13-2007, 10:58 AM
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I do not post here very often either, but I definitely agree with Elder Epley here and others who are seeing the trend away from the Apostolic Pentecostal Message as God's Plan for Salvation.
It is very obvious that there is great animosity and bitterness shoveled in the direction of those here who stand for any type of separation message. They are belittled and mocked regularly here. And as already has been stated, those who declare they are leaving this message are lauded as heroes. "Doctrines" are debated and argued for which may very well be false doctrines, which when they are debated and discussed in depth, and Scripture is thrown around seeking to prove some things which are way out of the mainstream, the minds of some who may be "weak" are opened to some things which could lead to eternal destruction.
The name of this Forum is becoming misleading. Is it really a forum for Apostolic friends? It doesn't seem that is the case.
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06-13-2007, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Thank you. The point is that I don't understand why people are part of something they absolutely loathe. Why claim the title "Apostolic" when uyou hate all it has traditionally represented.
Epley has made a great point with this thread.
It's not about standards.
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I don't call myself apostolic anymore.
Haven't for a long time.
Not that I 'hate all it has traditionally represented', I just don't consider myself 'apostolic'.
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06-13-2007, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronzo
I don't call myself apostolic anymore.
Haven't for a long time.
Not that I 'hate all it has traditionally represented', I just don't consider myself 'apostolic'.
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Yeah -- as do i... as don't I... or however it should be said...
In the end, I'm not going to be bound by labels and theologies that could very well cause me to miss the truth of God... I barely hold to the label Christian...
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Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break into pieces. | Etienne de la Boetie
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06-13-2007, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Thank you. The point is that I don't understand why people are part of something they absolutely loathe. Why claim the title "Apostolic" when you hate all it has traditionally represented.
Epley has made a great point with this thread.
It's not about standards.
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I can answer for myself if it helps... I was born in it... I was raised in it... I no longer believe a lot of it but it is still how I think because I spent the first 20 years of my life in it... I have family in it and friends in it and as long as that is the case, I will still think about it and want to talk about it.
Just because I don't work at Wal-Mart anymore doesn't mean I can't get together with old friends and talk about things that happened while we were working together... and point out blatant flaws and mistakes to others who have also noticed them.
Maybe some of us shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion on things once we have left... but the only way to enforce that is to say that we are not welcome.
There's no point in posting somewhere where no one likes you, but some of us have been encouraged to post more, repeatedly... and that is the only reason we have...
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06-13-2007, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheltiedad
I can answer for myself if it helps... I was born in it... I was raised in it... I no longer believe a lot of it but it is still how I think because I spent the first 20 years of my life in it... I have family in it and friends in it and as long as that is the case, I will still think about it and want to talk about it.
Just because I don't work at Wal-Mart anymore doesn't mean I can't get together with old friends and talk about things that happened while we were working together... and point out blatant flaws and mistakes to others who have also noticed them.
Maybe some of us shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion on things once we have left... but the only way to enforce that is to say that we are not welcome.
There's no point in posting somewhere where no one likes you, but some of us have been encouraged to post more, repeatedly... and that is the only reason we have...
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I like you....
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