The reality of the slippery slope?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

you said they prophesy but to whom do they prophesy?
the clear teaching of a covering.

To me and to others. Does your wife cover with a headcovering? The women in your Church? Why not?

[Apostolic1ness]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

To me and to others. Does your wife cover with a headcovering? The women in your Church? Why not?

So your baiting now. Are you for women prophesying with their head uncovered. If they do is it of God and is it right according to the scriptures? This conversation has nothing to do with any one of our families unless you bring your own into it. My family is off limits.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

So your baiting now. Are you for women prophesying with their head uncovered. If they do is it of God and is it right according to the scriptures? This conversation has nothing to do with any one of our families unless you bring your own into it. My family is off limits.

You said this was clear. I think it is too. You have condemned women who "cut" their hair, seemingly irregardless if it is still LONG.

If it be CLEAR to you concerning the headcovering and you dont want to bring your Church into it I will ask this way.

Why do most (White) Apostolic women refuse to cover their heads when praying or prophesying as instructed by the Holy Spirit of God?

[Apostolic1ness]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

You said this was clear. I think it is too. You have condemned women who "cut" their hair, seemingly irregardless if it is still LONG.

If it be CLEAR to you concerning the headcovering and you dont want to bring your Church into it I will ask this way.

Why do most (White) Apostolic women refuse to cover their heads when praying or prophesying as instructed by the Holy Spirit of God?

so lets stick to the topic. the issue was an individual made a comment that they know women prophets with cut hair and pants. Assuming they were not wearing a vale I said they were dishonoring their head and going against the clear teaching of the scriptures, the clear teaching is that women must be covered when prophesying of praying. Do you disagree that the women in question are disobeying the scriptures? No your church not my church not whites, the women in question.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Funny how bitter people always start off with how hateful people are that have “ standards “ in their life and all the evil things they do.

I think calling people bitter when they aren’t tends to have a way of making them bitter.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

so lets stick to the topic. the issue was an individual made a comment that they know women prophets with cut hair and pants. Assuming they were not wearing a vale I said they were dishonoring their head and going against the clear teaching of the scriptures, the clear teaching is that women must be covered when prophesying of praying. Do you disagree that the women in question are disobeying the scriptures? No your church not my church not whites, the women in question.

I would answer by saying what is clear at this time to you and me may not be clear to them at this time in their lives. I would say women ministering without a headcovering are ministering out of Gods will.

And yet having said that I dont deny they may have a real prophetic gift. I certainly have seen this. To me its like how does God use Preachers who teach the observance of Baals birthday under the guise of Christmas?

Is he REALLY using them? Are they just tares?

Or perhaps he may use people for a season to bless and encourage their faith while he deals with issues in their lives?

[Truthseeker]

Re

Originally Posted by votivesoul

What an apathetic cop out.

Do you not know that if anyone errs from the truth and you convert him you SAVE THAT SOUL FROM DEATH and hide a multitude of sins?

This nonchalant approach you've got going is sub-par Christianity at its worst.

Call it what you want, but It will only change when the leadership addresses it and change it.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

Yea they go against the clear teaching of the scripture and dishonor their head and God uses them as a prophet to whom?

Paul said women who prophesy with their head uncovered dishonour their head. He did not say they do not really prophesy.

Pentecost has always maintained that the operation of gifts in a person's life does not necessarily validate the person's lifestyle. Everything must be judged by the Word.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Wilsonwas

Yep, the statements made in dress and word of the world have moved on, but the standards remain the same. Even though you have to pull legal stuff out of the old teztiment Jewish/Hebrew faith to sustain it.

I will take the loving people God moves through, rather that the hold the fort bunch that dont even realize they are the ones pushing off a slippery slope.

I don't think you realize it, but you are coming across as very judgmental and holier than thou, the very thing you are complaining about in others.

Also, your comment about the old "teztiment" indicates a rather low view of the Scriptures, as well as being grossly uninformed as to what the Jewish faith is (it is NOT "old testament Hebrew faith" but rabbinical talmudism).

[Wilsonwas]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I don't think you realize it, but you are coming across as very judgmental and holier than thou, the very thing you are complaining about in others.

Also, your comment about the old "teztiment" indicates a rather low view of the Scriptures, as well as being grossly uninformed as to what the Jewish faith is (it is NOT "old testament Hebrew faith" but rabbinical talmudism).

1. Yes, I misspell on little phone keyboards, thank you for noticing.

2. I dont care to get into a detailed look at Jewish religion. I just think pulling single scripture from the old testiment law is a terrible way to construct doctrine.

3. I am not advocating against standards. I am saying that there are quite a few preachers that are standing on them based on stuff thought and reflecting values of the 40s-70s. This- as the world turns makes the above stretches of scripture interpetation even greater and more transparent as being simply tradition of men. Once a single doubt take root, it will then lead to the slippery slope mentioned.

4. My angry response was triggered by the flippent and accusing reply of the person to whom it was aimed...but I keep some in reserve for the next idiot that throws song books, or hits people. So I can get ouuta there before they have to call the cops...

..end of rant....