Reading Fudge's Book Again

[SDG]

I see some parallels between the progressive light doctrine and the Mormon doctrine of apostasy and restoration.

Mormons believe that the early Christian church fell away from Christ's original organization (the apostasy) and that that church was restored through Joseph Smith in the 1800's (the restoration).

[BobDylan]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I see some parallels between the progressive light doctrine and the Mormon doctrine of apostasy and restoration.

Mormons believe that the early Christian church fell away from Christ's original organization (the apostasy) and that that church was restored through Joseph Smith in the 1800's (the restoration).

What do you believe Dan? Where was the true church between 500AD and 1500AD? What's your take on the history of the church?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by BobDylan

What do you believe Dan? Where was the true church between 500AD and 1500AD? What's your take on the history of the church?

I hold a PCI view, BD. Hence, the Church are those who place their faith in Jesus Christ.... I along w/ other Apostolics, like Howard Goss, believe the Baptists and other believers will be saved. oloroid

The Church is not defined by your parameters.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I hold a PCI view, BD. Hence, the Church are those who place their faith in Jesus Christ.... I along w/ other Apostolics, like Howard Goss, believe the Baptists and other believers will be saved. oloroid

The Church is not defined by your parameters.

Faith is the means by which we are saved. The new birth is what saves, brings us into the body of Christ, and makes us children of God.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Faith is the means by which we are saved. The new birth is what saves, brings us into the body of Christ, and makes us children of God.

We have discussed aspects of the New Birth ... throughout this forum ... including justification, remission, baptism, and pneumotology ... the when and how of salvation and New Birth.

We can discuss New Birth again in another thread if you like ... this thread has taken an interesting turn concerning "Remnant History" as presented by the Water and Spirit Oneness crowd ... I think we should remain on this rather than get into something we've discussed to death.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I hold a PCI view, BD. Hence, the Church are those who place their faith in Jesus Christ.... I along w/ other Apostolics, like Howard Goss, believe the Baptists and other believers will be saved. oloroid

The Church is not defined by your parameters.

My view is like that of Dan. The Church (with a capital C) consists of those who have placed their faith in Jesus Christ. I believe that anyone who may be Baptist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Roman Catholic, Pentecostal (trinity or oneness) Episcopalian, or whatever label may be used is saved if he or she has asked Jesus into his/her life.

And, I consider myself Jesus' Name, Holiness, Apostolic, Oneness Pentecostal.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Here check these articles out.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10448a.htm
http://geocities.com/beapostolic/history.html

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Here check these articles out.
http://geocities.com/beapostolic/history.html

see my post on the page before...

this article is the biggest pile of bunk ever posted on the Internet (and that's saying a lot)

[BobDylan]

Maybe someone can post the link to the Cathari and Abligensian theology... if you knw where it is... thanks!

[Scott Hutchinson]

Here for info's sake.
http://newadvent.org/fathers/26014.htm