Water Baptism.....Just What Is It For?

[stmatthew]

Would like to see what some of you theologians think water baptism represents. ALL you other folks can answer as well.



I have always understood water baptism in the simplest terms I could find. It is a burial. Jesus after dying, was buried. We, after dying at repentance, bury the old sinful man. We are buried with Christ by faith, and are to resurrect with him to new life (Holy Ghost baptism).

[Steve Epley]

It is a waste of time a religious ritual that does absolutely NOTHING for the soul of man. No salvation in it!!! It is a work of vanity!!!!
The Quakers were right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

It is a waste of time a religious ritual that does absolutely NOTHING for the soul of man. No salvation in it!!! It is a work of vanity!!!!
The Quakers were right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you say so...

Why even ask this question on an apostolic forum?

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by samp

Why even ask this question on an apostolic forum?

Because there seems to be many that have differing views as to what water baptism is done for.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

It is a waste of time a religious ritual that does absolutely NOTHING for the soul of man. No salvation in it!!! It is a work of vanity!!!!
The Quakers were right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Except a man be born again of Water and Spirit, he can't enter the Kingdom of God.

Acts 10:46-48

For they heard them speak with tounges, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we.

And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord.

This is a strong part of salvation.

Unlike the Heaven and hell issue of cutting of hair that many subscribe as being salvational.

Peter the man who had the Keys to the Kingdom.

The man who stood at the day of Pentecost. (Why we call ourselves Pentecostal).

And said, Repent and be Bapized "Everyone" of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Without remission of sins there is no capacity for Redemption.

No sin will glory in the pressence of God.

There is no salvation with out remission of sins.

1 Peter 3:21 Peter speaking once again, The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us.

Romans 6:4 We are buried by baptism into death.

Into death... Hello you get into death by the key that Peter proclaimed. Baptism. The other keys being Repentance and the infilling.

Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
See having faith in God or the sinners prayer..(Find that in Scripture) is not the faith alone by which we are saved.

It is faith in "The operation of God" Operation being Effectual Working.

The working of God being as discribed in Colosians 2:12 and Romans 6:4.

You need to be dead to Sin (Baptism) and have faith in the operation of God, who hath raised (Infilling) him from the dead (Baptism).

Being raised from the dead by the quickening of the Holy Spirit.

Baptism is essential to the new birth experience....Period..

Nathan Eckstadt

[NLYP]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

Except a man be born again of Water and Spirit, he can't enter the Kingdom of God.

Acts 10:46-48

For they heard them speak with tounges, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we.

And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord.

This is a strong part of salvation.

Unlike the Heaven and hell issue of cutting of hair that many subscribe as being salvational.

Peter the man who had the Keys to the Kingdom.

The man who stood at the day of Pentecost. (Why we call ourselves Pentecostal).

And said, Repent and be Bapized "Everyone" of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Without remission of sins there is no capacity for Redemption.

No sin will glory in the pressence of God.

There is no salvation with out remission of sins.

1 Peter 3:21 Peter speaking once again, The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us.

Romans 6:4 We are buried by baptism into death.

Into death... Hello you get into death by the key that Peter proclaimed. Baptism. The other keys being Repentance and the infilling.

Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
See having faith in God or the sinners prayer..(Find that in Scripture) is not the faith alone by which we are saved.

It is faith in "The operation of God" Operation being Effectual Working.

The working of God being as discribed in Colosians 2:12 and Romans 6:4.

You need to be dead to Sin (Baptism) and have faith in the operation of God, who hath raised (Infilling) him from the dead (Baptism).

Being raised from the dead by the quickening of the Holy Spirit.

Baptism is essential to the new birth experience....Period..
Nathan Eckstadt

Ask people in your current leadership if they believe it as strong as you do....As to your post...RIGHT ON BRO!!!!

As to the Bolded Part.....

Ask him that as well......
AND why "we freely embrace those that baptize differently".

[Neck]

Originally Posted by NLYP

Ask people in your current leadership if they believe it as strong as you do....As to your post...RIGHT ON BRO!!!!

As to the Bolded Part.....

Ask him that as well......
AND why "we freely embrace those that baptize differently".

I am sure we will have those conversations. I can share with u that I will not waiver on these truths.

Nathan Eckstadt

[NLYP]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

I am sure we will have those conversations. I can share with u that I will not waiver on these truths.

Nathan Eckstadt

THEN WHY Brother..in ALLL Honesty would you raise your family in something that goes against that which you "wont waver" against.
Showing your children something outside of what you KNOW is truth will only bring confusion to them. THEY DESERVE that which is SOLID.
The same chance you and I had.

[NLYP]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

I am sure we will have those conversations. I can share with u that I will not waiver on these truths.

Nathan Eckstadt

It does not bother you that JB teaches that you are saved and "rapture ready"...after the sinners prayer?
Bro....The bride is for those that have taken on the name....THAT IS ONLY done in the waters of baptism...you know that!
I am pleading with you..ASK JB if he believes that Jesus Name baptism and the Holy Ghost are absolute ESSENTIALS for salvation.


PLEASE DO THIS Bro.......