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Old 07-26-2007, 01:34 PM
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RevR, I know this is off the subject but were you in the military?
Nope.. Went from High School to Bible School.. but I really didn't have a choice back then...

I have family members & freinds that are tho..
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:35 PM
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btw.. I understand Daniel's perspective too..

I've been there...
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:37 PM
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From October of last year:


Last Night My Son Became A Man

My son is my hero.

About a month ago the eigth grade junior high basketball coach approached him and asked him to try out for the team. After much discussion, most of which revolved around what he would wear to play in, my wife and I decided to let him try out.

During tryouts my son wore warm up pants. He has never worn a pair of shorts in public in his fourteen years upon this earth. We have never taught this as a Heaven or Hell issue. We have always presented it to our twin boys as something we do to be separate and pleasing to God. We have also framed it as a tradition within our family.

That being said, we left the decision as to what to wear to him. He is almost fourteen, and we felt this was a decision he could make with God.

Two weeks ago, he came home and said he had made the team. We were very proud. The boys on the team asked him what he would wear when he played in games. He wouldn't answer.

His coach came to him when he ordered uniforms and asked my son what he would be wearing. He was so kind and considerate. He told my son it didn't matter to him if he wore the warm up pants to play in. He said that state rules allowed for it on religious grounds.

When the uniforms came in, my son brought home both shorts and the warm-ups. We could tell he was trying to choose what he would do. We did not ask him about it at all. At his first away game last week, he came onto the court in the warm up pants. We heard people around us asking why he wasn't wearing shorts. They were kind, but curious.

After the game, the coach came to me and told me that he had asked my son why he chose to wear warm ups. He said that I should be proud of my son's answer.

My son told him that he wore them out of respect for his dad. He told him that my wife and I had left the decision to him. He said his dad was a pastor and might catch flak for his son wearing shorts. He also said he felt more comfortable dressed this way. He told the coach if he wanted him to play this was how it was going to be.

Last night was his first home game. Again he came onto the court dressed in warmups. The minute he came onto the court the refs halted the game and said this was a rules infraction.

As they discussed it, the crowd of about 600 began to chant "let him play",
"let him play". The opposing coach came over and told the refs to let him play. After consulting the rule book, the refs decided it was okay. The crowd stood and clapped for my son as he took the court.

My son did not score last night, but it does not matter. My son became my hero. The true measure of a man is making a stand and sticking to it.

Last night my son became a man.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:43 PM
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Nope.. Went from High School to Bible School.. but I really didn't have a choice back then...

I have family members & freinds that are tho..
before you agree to them going in, talk to some folk who have been there as Apostolic young men.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:44 PM
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Last Night My Son Became A Man

My son is my hero.

About a month ago the eigth grade junior high basketball coach approached him and asked him to try out for the team. After much discussion, most of which revolved around what he would wear to play in, my wife and I decided to let him try out.

During tryouts my son wore warm up pants. He has never worn a pair of shorts in public in his fourteen years upon this earth. We have never taught this as a Heaven or Hell issue. We have always presented it to our twin boys as something we do to be separate and pleasing to God. We have also framed it as a tradition within our family.

That being said, we left the decision as to what to wear to him. He is almost fourteen, and we felt this was a decision he could make with God.

Two weeks ago, he came home and said he had made the team. We were very proud. The boys on the team asked him what he would wear when he played in games. He wouldn't answer.

His coach came to him when he ordered uniforms and asked my son what he would be wearing. He was so kind and considerate. He told my son it didn't matter to him if he wore the warm up pants to play in. He said that state rules allowed for it on religious grounds.

When the uniforms came in, my son brought home both shorts and the warm-ups. We could tell he was trying to choose what he would do. We did not ask him about it at all. At his first away game last week, he came onto the court in the warm up pants. We heard people around us asking why he wasn't wearing shorts. They were kind, but curious.

After the game, the coach came to me and told me that he had asked my son why he chose to wear warm ups. He said that I should be proud of my son's answer.

My son told him that he wore them out of respect for his dad. He told him that my wife and I had left the decision to him. He said his dad was a pastor and might catch flak for his son wearing shorts. He also said he felt more comfortable dressed this way. He told the coach if he wanted him to play this was how it was going to be.

Last night was his first home game. Again he came onto the court dressed in warmups. The minute he came onto the court the refs halted the game and said this was a rules infraction.

As they discussed it, the crowd of about 600 began to chant "let him play",
"let him play". The opposing coach came over and told the refs to let him play. After consulting the rule book, the refs decided it was okay. The crowd stood and clapped for my son as he took the court.

My son did not score last night, but it does not matter. My son became my hero. The true measure of a man is making a stand and sticking to it.

Last night my son became a man.
good man, good boy, they kind of go together, dt
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:45 PM
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PP that is awesome. I played in Jr. High and wore warmups.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:46 PM
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before you agree to them going in, talk to some folk who have been there as Apostolic young men.
Definately...
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:46 PM
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Ferd, were you in the military?

If so, what would you say to a young person about joining?

Is the environment conducive to a relationship with God?

We know it is possible to be faithful to God in any situation, but I am talking about choice here.

Will you recommend that your son serve?

Please explain why or why not.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:48 PM
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I have always been an opponent of our stance regarding organized sports which the manual refers to as "wordly sports and amusements".

Many of you may remember that my son plays high school basketball (dressed modestly). I have always followed sports. It's the first section of the newspaper I read. When I click on cnn.com I always click the sports tab first. I have always considered this a harmless hobby.

But have you given attention to the sports page lately? Almost every major sport is involved in some sort of scandal.

1. The NBA just found out a veteran referee, with ties to the mafia, has been shaving points from games that he placed bets on. The mafia has already sent out hits to kill the ref.

2. Major League Baseball is dealing with a steroid scandal that won't go away. It's not just Barry Bonds. There are many pitchers and utility players who have been caught cheating. In an interview earlier this week, Curt Shilling announced thathe feels like steroid use is rampant among MLB players.

Then there is the conspiracy theory that asks "did St Louis really win
the World Series last year, or did Detroit pitcher's purposefully throw it away?" Their pitchers made five throwing errors in five games and their ace starter was caught with a sticky substance on his hand.

3. Cycling just ousted the leader of this year's Tour de France because of doping.

4. Michael Vick, arguably the face of the National Football League was suspended because the FBI says he was the ring leader of an illegal dogfighting scandal.


Is this really something you want to support and be involved in?

Is it something you want your kids to follow?

Is it time to rethink your stance concerning organized sports?
There is a VAST difference between professional sports and organized sports, particularly scholastic.

BTW I noticed some great failings in the area of our politicians...should we oppose having ANYTHING to do with politics?

The Music industry too...lets not play instruments, not listen to organized bands lol

The Business industry has had some great failings....lets all quit our jobs

The Ministry has had some great failings....good grief...we're really up the creek with out paddle now
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:49 PM
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i grew up playing softball. my brother played baseball. we turned out fine...at least i did my son played t-ball this year and has expressed a liking to karate. looks like we will be doing that as well. we also go to major league games. going in 1 1/2 weeks to see the CUBBIES!!!
Why waste your hopes, and your money?

The Brewers are gonna win it all anyway.
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