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12-07-2014, 11:18 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Even machines can keep a body "alive", with no person present.
Sorry, your words just don';t match the facts.
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Semantics,
If what you are saying is true and not just trying to prove a point then you believe that humans don't die either. It's just our flesh that lives or dies apart from us right?
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12-07-2014, 12:08 PM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Semantics,
If what you are saying is true and not just trying to prove a point then you believe that humans don't die either. It's just our flesh that lives or dies apart from us right?
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We as persons do not die, really. We are absent from the body and present with the Lord when the body dies. Our person continues on.
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12-07-2014, 12:36 PM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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We as persons do not die, really. We are absent from the body and present with the Lord when the body dies. Our person continues on.
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I'm thinking there are numerous biblical passages that would disagree with the assessment that we do not die.
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12-07-2014, 12:42 PM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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I'm thinking there are numerous biblical passages that would disagree with the assessment that we do not die.
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Of course we die. But technically, the person lives on. You do not agree?
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12-07-2014, 12:49 PM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Of course we die. But technically, the person lives on. You do not agree?
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So of course God died. But technically, gods person lived on. You do not agree?
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12-07-2014, 12:52 PM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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So of course God died. But technically, gods person lived on. You do not agree?
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No. God is eternal and cannot die.
I see your whole point is that "GOD DIED". God is in a position we're not in. Manifesting as Son as well as being Father. We cannot make comparisons to humanity. I guess it is futile to repeat that point any further. People will believe what they want.
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12-07-2014, 12:57 PM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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No. God is eternal and cannot die.
I see your whole point is that "GOD DIED". God is in a position we're not in. Manifesting as Son as well as being Father. We cannot make comparisons to humanity. I guess it is futile to repeat that point any further. People will believe what they want.
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I totally agree that God cannot die. Its just I also believe that God did die too.
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12-07-2014, 01:29 PM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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I totally agree that God cannot die. Its just I also believe that God did die too.
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I see no big issue, personally. The bible does not make the statement, so I leave it at that.
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12-07-2014, 02:44 PM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Even machines can keep a body "alive", with no person present.
Sorry, your words just don';t match the facts.
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Yes but Doctors declare those persons brain dead even if the body is functioning. The Person has died and what Jfrog is getting at is not a medical term or a legal one but the normal term we use and the bible uses for dying
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-07-2014, 02:47 PM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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So of course God died. But technically, gods person lived on. You do not agree?
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Exactly! The "God did not die" argument seems to assume death means ceasing to exist...but clearly does not mean that
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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