Prediction: The Charismatics Will Seek Holiness!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by consapente89

Not as much as you might think. Mike is untouchable. His spirituality is un-paralleled. His insight to "truth" is his alone, and no one holds a candle. His candy stick doctrines isolate him from EVERYONE. You've seen it.

Everything I believe has been handed to me by an Elder somewhere along the line, and everything I am continuing in is with the help of an Elder/Elders speaking, guiding, correcting. I need help and I know it.

So, therefore we should all be under Mike's ministry?

Correct?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

N DAVID

And when have I ever ONE TIME BLASTED HOLINESS?

Explain because I believe in and teach Bible holiness and perfection.

"holiness, new-birth apostolics" is one term. You have criticized churches who practice holiness and who are new birth believing either over eschatology or platform guidelines which are against beards.

I wasn't saying you blast holiness. But you have on multiple occasions blasted churches who believe and preach holiness and the new birth experience.

[houston]

Originally Posted by n david

"holiness, new-birth apostolics" is one term. You have criticized churches who practice holiness and who are new birth believing either over eschatology or platform guidelines which are against beards.

I wasn't saying you blast holiness. But you have on multiple occasions blasted churches who believe and preach holiness and the new birth experience.

Can we call it what it is. Standards, not holiness. I find it hard to believe that MTD doesn’t believe in holiness.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by houston

Can we call it what it is. Standards, not holiness. I find it hard to believe that MTD doesn’t believe in holiness.

I personally teach and believe in Biblical Holiness. The same thing as Biblical Perfection. Sadly I find many Apostolic Churches who demand perfection concerning THEIR PERSONAL PREFERANCE STANDARDS but preach against being perfect with the commands and instruction of Jesus Christ.

[n david]

Originally Posted by houston

Can we call it what it is. Standards, not holiness. I find it hard to believe that MTD doesn’t believe in holiness.

That would be a better term, thanks.

I do not mean to claim or insinuate that MTD does not believe in holiness.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Originally Posted by houston

Can we call it what it is. Standards, not holiness. I find it hard to believe that MTD doesn’t believe in holiness.

I believe Jesus Christ gave me the word, "holiness" and not standards for a very specific reason. In His Timing, we will see this word come to fruition.

In MY mind, holiness is not just standards, but certain standards are definitely a part of holiness.

[n david]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo

In His Timing, we will see this word come to fruition.

Steve Fletcher claimed the rapture was going to happen either yesterday or today.

http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/...g-june-21.html

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Originally Posted by n david

Steve Fletcher claimed the rapture was going to happen either yesterday or today.

http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/...g-june-21.html

I don't understand how "Christians" can bet against the Bible like this. Does anyone know the logic? It keeps happening. What is their justification for proclaiming that they think they know the date of Jesus' return?

[n david]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo

I don't understand how "Christians" can bet against the Bible like this. Does anyone know the logic? It keeps happening. What is their justification for proclaiming that they think they know the date of Jesus' return?

Right. He'd be better just saying it will happen in God's timing.

[Evang.Benincasa]